House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Privacy Limits

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Post by aaronbrethorst » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Privacy Limits
nytimes.com

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Post by Andersos » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:02 PM UTC

Privacy in the US is dead

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Post by xir78 » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:04 PM UTC

Turmp should be happy about this, it will be useful in cracking down on citizens and opponents who criticize him.

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Post by brndnmtthws » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:06 PM UTC

Thankfully the rules of math still apply and it's never been easier to use encryption just about everywhere.

The question for me is: at what point will people begin to reject this farce of a ruling elite that exists today?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:06 PM UTC

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Post by plandis » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:06 PM UTC

Andersos wrote: post #2

Privacy in the US is dead

Well, it’s not that bleak. You just need to have the knowledge to control your own privacy rather than relying on the government to have your back.

Really the bad part is that most people don’t know about or how to use technology to protect their privacy :-/

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Post by ProAm » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:10 PM UTC

plandis wrote: post #6

Andersos wrote: post #2

Privacy in the US is dead

Well, it’s not that bleak. You just need to have the knowledge to control your own privacy rather than relying on the government to have your back. Really the bad part is that most people don’t know about or how to use technology to protect their privacy :-/

> rather than relying on the government to have your back

What's the purpose of having a government again?

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Post by epmaybe » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:10 PM UTC

I had a discussion with my mother regarding surveillance and privacy and how they relate to safety. I feel like she understands that surveillance when used in a nefarious manner can be detrimental to individual freedoms, but is pro surveillance regardless. This is because she believes that the benefits of keeping others safe outweighs the potential for misuse.

How can I help her understand why people fight for privacy?

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Post by knz » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:13 PM UTC

xir78 wrote: post #3

Turmp should be happy about this, it will be useful in cracking down on citizens and opponents who criticize him.

> Turmp should be happy about this

To be fair, Trump is hardly the the first President to seek renewal of such laws.

> useful in cracking down on citizens and opponents who criticize him.

There were multiple reports about "Dark Side" yesterday - https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dark-side-federal-unit-...

What could possibly go wrong.....

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Post by 1001101 » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 5:13 PM UTC

plandis wrote: post #6

Andersos wrote: post #2

Privacy in the US is dead

Well, it’s not that bleak. You just need to have the knowledge to control your own privacy rather than relying on the government to have your back. Really the bad part is that most people don’t know about or how to use technology to protect their privacy :-/

If you've looked at the Shadow Brokers releases, Vault 7 etc., you will be reminded that, even as a privacy conscious technologist, you're still going up against PhDs with budgets of 10s of billions / yr.