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Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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It doesn't say what type of aircraft guests would fly on.

We fly the CRJ Series and ERJ Series. These are 50 to 100 seat passenger aircraft. Same planes that United Express, Delta Connection, and American Airlines use. We'll make that more clear on the website.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#72

It doesn't say what type of aircraft guests would fly on.

It does, but it's hidden at the bottom of the FAQ [1] page. I agree with the other comments about how they could do a better job of surfacing this kind of information. > We fly the beautiful Bombardier CRJ Series and Embraer ERJ Series. These are regional planes with 50 to 100 passenger seats. These planes are the same planes that are used by United Express, Delta Connection, and American Airlines. [1] - https://www.…

We'll make that more clear on the site. Thanks for the feedback

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#73

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It does, but it's hidden at the bottom of the FAQ [1] page. I agree with the other comments about how they could do a better job of surfacing this kind of information. > We fly the beautiful Bombardier CRJ Series and Embraer ERJ Series. These are regional planes with 50 to 100 passenger seats. These planes are the same planes that are used by United Express, Delta Connection, and American Airlines. [1] - https://www.…

Adding a photo of the actual aircraft would also be nice. From the website it's hard to tell whether this is a real business that's currently in operation, or just a site mock-up. Have you actually started flying yet? I can't tell.

We haven't started flying yet. We plan on having our first flight within the next few months. We'll add some photos of the aircraft we use to the site. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#74

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but presumably with much less waiting around?

Yes, exactly. Just arrive 15 minutes before departure time.

Ah just like the good old days on the BA LHR to EDI route run up to the counter whack the card down and wait less than 30 mins for the next flight.

Just time for a cheeky pint as the lounge next to the boarding way had a bar.- the afternoon cream teas where nice as well.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#75

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Adding a photo of the actual aircraft would also be nice. From the website it's hard to tell whether this is a real business that's currently in operation, or just a site mock-up. Have you actually started flying yet? I can't tell.

And they should just come straight out and explain how the flights are operated. Sublease of the aircraft? Block-booking of seats on scheduled commercial services? Commercial charters? The more they hide the less confidence people will have in them. The contact name in the WHOIS appears to be an attorney. I don't see any entry for JumpDriveAir or variations thereof in the ICAO operating agency list ( Doc 8585 ) so I…

We partner with Part 121 regional airline operators that operate our flights. We give them the schedule and they operate the flights on our behalf. We'll adjust the site so we do a better job of explaining how flights are operated. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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And they should just come straight out and explain how the flights are operated. Sublease of the aircraft? Block-booking of seats on scheduled commercial services? Commercial charters? The more they hide the less confidence people will have in them. The contact name in the WHOIS appears to be an attorney. I don't see any entry for JumpDriveAir or variations thereof in the ICAO operating agency list ( Doc 8585 ) so I…

If they were going to be their own operator, the probably wouldn't use a mix of CRJ and E-175, but instead have a single-type fleet for lower costs. My guess is that SkyWest or someone like that who already has a mixed fleet is operating the flights.

Yes, we're partnering with part 121 regional airline operators to operate our flights.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#77

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And they should just come straight out and explain how the flights are operated. Sublease of the aircraft? Block-booking of seats on scheduled commercial services? Commercial charters? The more they hide the less confidence people will have in them. The contact name in the WHOIS appears to be an attorney. I don't see any entry for JumpDriveAir or variations thereof in the ICAO operating agency list ( Doc 8585 ) so I…

I'd wager that at this moment they've not done much more than ideation and (I pray dearly) feasibility studies. We won't even be able to start arguing whether this idea has wings until the first wheels leave the tarmac.

We're in the process of finalizing arrangements with our regional airline partners to operate the flights. We'll have our first flights within the next few months.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#78
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And they should just come straight out and explain how the flights are operated. Sublease of the aircraft? Block-booking of seats on scheduled commercial services? Commercial charters? The more they hide the less confidence people will have in them. The contact name in the WHOIS appears to be an attorney. I don't see any entry for JumpDriveAir or variations thereof in the ICAO operating agency list ( Doc 8585 ) so I…

Yes, I'm curious too. They are not in the list of certificated air carriers or commuter services on FAA website, not even in the applicants list.

We're not a direct air carrier. We act as an agent arranging travel with part 121 air carriers.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

#80
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You could get into partial plane ownership and fly yourself for far less than their $1,950/mo fee. The upfront investment is higher since you'll need a pilot's license. :-)

I am actually slightly tempted. It's of course not a cheap option, but I think one thing putting me off is my impression that, if I rented a plane, I'd be paying for the rental the entire time it sits on the ground at my destination, which is hard to swallow.

That's a common misconception. Plane rental is charged by the time the magnetos are energized which in turn is measured by the Hobbs meter. Having said that, many places often have a minimum number of hours per day to prevent someone taking a plane all weekend for two billable hours.

Flying as a hobby is a lot like boating - the happiest day of your life is when you sell your boat/plane. The second happiest day is when you buy it. It can be woefully expensive because much like a house it's easy to do just one more thing / buy just one more gadget and think well if I just spent a little bit more I could have Y instead of X.

I wouldn't discourage you against taking a discovery flight but I'm saying this in the interest of full disclosure. Back when I learned to fly there was a running joke about the $100 hamburger because unless you had specific goals for your license that's all it was good for - a quick jaunt to the next town over to keep current and have some grub. Considering rental prices these days I guess that's more like a $300 hamburger.

If you learn to fly, you'll pay a rate based on the type of airplane and whether aviation gas is built into the price. After a very quick Google looks like in California prices start at $130+/hr. You need 35-40 hours* just to get the first of your licenses which will let you fly a small plane in good weather. Realistically once you have a ticket any place renting a plane will want you teach you how to fly the model they're renting you, so tack on a few hours more to get signed off in the plane you want.

Once you rack up enough club membership dues or hours in a rented plane you'll start thinking it would just be easier to own. That's when things get really interesting because you have to decide if this is a hobby or a serious hobby.

*When I got my PP-ASEL, you had two choices - a rigorous, structured 35 hour course or a looser 40 hour minimum course. That's 40 hours of flight time and instruction, not total hours in a classroom. Considering you're a hacker news poster I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you have the disposable income, education and predisposition to dedicate a couple of weeks to doing nothing but learning to fly. If you can manage that I recommend the 35 hour course: it's intensive but the cheapest option because you won't be paying by the hour to train and retrain skills that get rusty by only flying once or twice a week. Flying is very much a mechanical skill and it has to become second nature before you can learn to multitask and take care of all the other things you need to do, otherwise you're perpetually "behind the airplane."

Anyway again if you decide to seriously pursue it I'd say try a discovery flight first and then dedicate a chunk of time to knock it out. It is the fastest way to get it done, which means it's the cheapest way to get it done.

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