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Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by dannyminutillo »

nolok wrote: post #20
tlb wrote: post #2

Maybe a good idea, but the site does a bad job of selling it. The front page starts with a big rant about how bad existing airlines are. That's not how you sell things. You should focus on what you do, which is SFO-LAX flights through private terminals on a monthly subscription. The private terminal is a huge win -- it saves a good hour on travel. But that's buried in the FAQ. You should redesign so that all of the f…

What does a "private terminal" mean ? Or rather, in what precise way is it better ? I have a vague idea of what it can provide but I'm not sure how it can shed up to an hour of time. Does it include a dedicated secrity and immigration service (so no gigantic lines) ?

A private terminal is a smaller terminal in a different location than the main terminal. The private terminals are used for private planes. We don't fly private planes. We fly regional planes, however, they still meet the size requirements to take off and land at private terminals. There are never any lines and they have their own security system. So you can show up 15 minutes before the flight and still make it.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by chrisper »

nolok wrote: post #20
tlb wrote: post #2

Maybe a good idea, but the site does a bad job of selling it. The front page starts with a big rant about how bad existing airlines are. That's not how you sell things. You should focus on what you do, which is SFO-LAX flights through private terminals on a monthly subscription. The private terminal is a huge win -- it saves a good hour on travel. But that's buried in the FAQ. You should redesign so that all of the f…

What does a "private terminal" mean ? Or rather, in what precise way is it better ? I have a vague idea of what it can provide but I'm not sure how it can shed up to an hour of time. Does it include a dedicated secrity and immigration service (so no gigantic lines) ?

Yes. It usually does. Also at some airports customs is seperate as well.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by chrisper »

rconti wrote: post #18
koolba wrote: post #13

This looks pretty cool. If I was foolish enough to live in the Bay area and had reason to visit family in the LA area I might sign up for this. If you have more than two weeks notice you can do better with Southwest though. They've got OAK-to-BUR (and vice versa) at $55-$67 depending on the day of the week. That said, why LAX and SFO? Why not pick cheaper airports like OAK and BUR? I'd imagine the runway fees would b…

I'm constantly tempted by Surf Air as I've lived as close as 2mi from San Carlos airport (KSQL!) and now live 6mi from it, and my parents live 2 miles from Palomar Airport (KCRQ) which is a good 30 minute drive (in GOOD traffic; their commute traffic often puts the Bay Area to shame). Even with the slower flying time it would save me hours. Unfortunately, I don't "commute", so it's hard to justify a price nearing $2k…

The ICAO code is KSQL!

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by technofiend »

koolba wrote: post #13

This looks pretty cool. If I was foolish enough to live in the Bay area and had reason to visit family in the LA area I might sign up for this. If you have more than two weeks notice you can do better with Southwest though. They've got OAK-to-BUR (and vice versa) at $55-$67 depending on the day of the week. That said, why LAX and SFO? Why not pick cheaper airports like OAK and BUR? I'd imagine the runway fees would b…

I would flip it - rent an apartment in LA, work at ${Silicon_Valley_Startup} and sleep under my desk Monday-Friday.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by technofiend »

rconti wrote: post #18
koolba wrote: post #13

This looks pretty cool. If I was foolish enough to live in the Bay area and had reason to visit family in the LA area I might sign up for this. If you have more than two weeks notice you can do better with Southwest though. They've got OAK-to-BUR (and vice versa) at $55-$67 depending on the day of the week. That said, why LAX and SFO? Why not pick cheaper airports like OAK and BUR? I'd imagine the runway fees would b…

I'm constantly tempted by Surf Air as I've lived as close as 2mi from San Carlos airport (KSQL!) and now live 6mi from it, and my parents live 2 miles from Palomar Airport (KCRQ) which is a good 30 minute drive (in GOOD traffic; their commute traffic often puts the Bay Area to shame). Even with the slower flying time it would save me hours. Unfortunately, I don't "commute", so it's hard to justify a price nearing $2k…

You could get into partial plane ownership and fly yourself for far less than their $1,950/mo fee. The upfront investment is higher since you'll need a pilot's license. :-)

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by walshemj »

dannyminutillo wrote: post #5
zachlatta wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, I was super confused until I read this comment. I also didn't realize this included a private terminal. I thought this was just a way to book last minute fares without surprises, which didn't really make sense because I just checked and it's cheaper to book a round trip from SFO - LAX leaving any time this week with the airline ($117 on United vs. $156 w/ you).

The private terminal aspect is why we charge a little more than other airlines' lowest fares. It looks like we need to do a better job of highlighting the private terminal feature on our site. Thanks for the great feedback.

but presumably with much less waiting around?

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by runj__ »

jtchang wrote: post #14
tlb wrote: post #2

Maybe a good idea, but the site does a bad job of selling it. The front page starts with a big rant about how bad existing airlines are. That's not how you sell things. You should focus on what you do, which is SFO-LAX flights through private terminals on a monthly subscription. The private terminal is a huge win -- it saves a good hour on travel. But that's buried in the FAQ. You should redesign so that all of the f…

100% agree on the messaging here. Is it use it or lose it type flights? I didn't even notice the private terminal stuff (didn't get that far). I thought it was some type of group buying thing on big carriers like Delta, etc. Private terminal is a huge win. I know some friends who want to live in LA but work remotely in SF. 1-2 flights a month in a private terminal for this pricing seems like a steal especially when y…

I didn't even realize there was anything below the fold as the black div looked like a footer :S, went straight to the FAQ.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by siddharthdeswal »

tlb wrote: post #2

Maybe a good idea, but the site does a bad job of selling it. The front page starts with a big rant about how bad existing airlines are. That's not how you sell things. You should focus on what you do, which is SFO-LAX flights through private terminals on a monthly subscription. The private terminal is a huge win -- it saves a good hour on travel. But that's buried in the FAQ. You should redesign so that all of the f…

Reiterating problems in the existing way of doing things is a fairly well known method of getting interest and buy-in from prospective customers, so I think the initial rant might actually be connecting with people.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by chronic193 »

arximboldi wrote: post #8

This is sad. Flight is the most contaminating form of transportation.

I'll take the cheapest mode of transport available. Whether it's coal or oil or wind powered, I, and billions of other people in the world, could care less for the environment. My wallet matters more.

Re: Show HN: Monthly subscription airline with SFO-LAX flights starting at $78

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Post by dannyminutillo »

walshemj wrote: post #46
dannyminutillo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The private terminal aspect is why we charge a little more than other airlines' lowest fares. It looks like we need to do a better job of highlighting the private terminal feature on our site. Thanks for the great feedback.

but presumably with much less waiting around?

Yes, exactly. Just arrive 15 minutes before departure time.
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