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Good lord this is chilling. It makes me terribly sad to think about the mental torture some people go through that leads them to such an act.
Suicide is somewhat like cutting yourself. You cut yourself to cause pain that will numb the other pain you have. In this case, the thought of suicide numbs the other pain you have. Then you keep thinking about suicide more and more, and then one day bam, the thought of suicide just feels too good to not let go and you do it.
Hm.
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This too shall pass
I know you mean well but this sort of comment really upsets me because for many of us that means "when we die" as there is no obvious realistic hope. I have been suffering for 15+ years since medical mistakes took my life and future. I have the whole cocktail of physical and mental pain as a result and every day is hell just surviving. I have lost everything including my means to meet even the basic needs of life ind…
My small insight as a lifelong depressive is that well-meaning people who give advice and encouragement often do so from a position of limited understanding, hopefully because they have never had to endure similar torment.
It can seem inconceivable to them that sometimes people are so destroyed that it is effectively impossible to take their advice, or derive comfort from their words.
I truly hope you find some relief that avoids the need for self-liberation.
Now we have two suicides of people working in this facet of human right activism. At what number should we start thinking about foul play? There are ways to push people to such extreme acts.
> foul play I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but this is bottom of the barrel stuff: off topic, disrespectful, and way below the quality line. Please don't bring it in here.
Now we have two suicides of people working in this facet of human right activism. At what number should we start thinking about foul play? There are ways to push people to such extreme acts.
Or two people, one being a known sufferer of depression and the other being known a a sufferer of PTSD, decided to kill themselves like an alarming number of people do who suffer from those problems. Maybe instead turning this into a story about government conspiracies and secret plots to kill citizens we try to turn this into a story about getting people with mental health issues the help they need.
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This too shall pass
I know you mean well but this sort of comment really upsets me because for many of us that means "when we die" as there is no obvious realistic hope. I have been suffering for 15+ years since medical mistakes took my life and future. I have the whole cocktail of physical and mental pain as a result and every day is hell just surviving. I have lost everything including my means to meet even the basic needs of life ind…
You can email me. I have a serious medical condition and have gradually gotten healthier, created a flexible income and paid down debt. I may be able to point you in the right direction.
There was another piece* posted to HN today about how psychologically traumatic and life altering it can be to kill someone accidentally under circumstances where you couldn't have predicted it nor prevented it. Veterans are often deeply scarred by their wartime experiences and may not share them in order to protect other people from the horrors of war.
My father fought in both WW2 and Vietnam. He died in his late 80s. Only after his death did it occur to me that he told humorous stories about Vietnam, but never spoke of WW2. I infer that if Vietnam was joke worthy in his eyes, WW2 was unspeakable.
I wish we had a better track record for helping veterans with the mental health issues that so often grow out of serving their country.
Suicide. Hm.
Second, your insinuation is groundless, uncivil, and gross. Please don't sink to this level if you want to keep commenting here.
Suicide. Hm.
First, would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to HN? Second, your insinuation is groundless, uncivil, and gross. Please don't sink to this level if you want to keep commenting here.
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First, would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to HN? Second, your insinuation is groundless, uncivil, and gross. Please don't sink to this level if you want to keep commenting here.
Respectfully, why is it gross? Why is it gross to question suicides in the case of political dissidents? I think it's necessary. Even if wrong, or baseless, it's a task that needs to be done and I would be afraid to live in a state where it is unacceptable to question such.
Because of that and the other slop that has been posted here, I haven't been this ashamed of an HN thread in quite a while. It pains me that HN would be an example of how low the internet sinks when someone dies.
Edit: tptacek said it better than I did btw: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16110384