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The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by fenwick67 »

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #90
dsego wrote: post #33

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What investigation? They measured the tire tracks. Unless there was an eyewitness, there is nothing else to do.

Right, this is sadly the unfortunate answer in many cases and the raw reality of our world. Too many people have been watching CSI and think the police could just go back and start 'zooming in' to see what happened.

Yeah this happened to me, my house got shot up and a bullet whizzed over my desk (where I would have been if I was at my computer) and into the wall over my sleeping head.

The police response was basically "well, sometimes people do this, but they usually don't hit anybody LOL". I didn't expect a full-on CSI investigation but really, my girlfriend or I could have died, I wanted something. There were never any charges, and I'm pretty sure there was no investigation beyond writing the report. It was really disappointing and disillusioning.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by sdwa »

drewm1980 wrote: post #503
magic_beans wrote: post #260

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It was not the driver's fault in this case. The child ran right into a residential road with a high speed limit. The road should not have had such a high speed limit, should have had speed bumps, and possible the little boy's parents should have had a fence. Punishing the driver in this case doesn't fix the problem at all.

Revoking the driver's license permanently will reduce the chance of her killing another child do zero. It's not punishment, it's prevention. We should be telling drivers who injure people "don't worry, this horrible thing will never happen to you again, because driving is no longer a part of your role in society."

Punishing people despite them having broken no laws is obviously nonsense.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by larrymcp »

MollyR wrote: post #284

I'm a mother with a young child. I don't think the childless and males can ever really understand the process of being pregnant for 9 months and then giving birth. I empathize with her, but if she killed my child. I could never forgive her.

In this case it sounds like it was the child's fault though? Reading the article I can't quite agree with the notion of "she killed the child". Rather, the child killed himself. He suddenly darted out into the street in front of a moving vehicle. So to me the accident sounds like the child's fault rather than the driver's.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by stochastic_monk »

treyfitty wrote: post #322

Ever since I became a father (2 months ago), I've been seeing the world as a dangerous and an ugly place. This is confounded with the fact that, a month ago, I came to find out that my brother was bullied in HS and was never the same. My brother has been out of high school for about 9 years now, but It took me 6 whole years to consider the possibility that something was wrong. I was in undergrad and focused on my stu…

Thank you for sharing your experience.

I don't want to have children, and very large part of that is the fact that I don't want to cause someone to hurt as intensely as many do growing up. I know I and my siblings had a very difficult time.

In other words, it's out of love. I am keeping someone safe.

I very much respect anyone who has chosen to have children and is dedicated to protecting them and keeping them safe. The world needs more people like you.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by ptaipale »

astura wrote: post #380
christophilus wrote: post #178

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I had a similar experience yesterday when my wife related a near-kidnapping that happened in a grocery store. It seems that a pair of child-traffickers attempted to take a baby out of a shopping cart. It was a male/female duo. (Side note: NEVER leave your children unattended even for a moment. In this case, the parent was right beside the cart, moving groceries from the cart to the conveyor belt. It was a brazen act…

>NEVER leave your children unattended even for a moment. In this case, the parent was right beside the cart, moving groceries from the cart to the conveyor belt. Never? Come on, how far are we going to take this? Not sending them to school so you can stay home and watch for kidnappers? Never sending them to grandpa's house because grandpa might bring the kids to the grocery store and turn around for a second to pick…

Agreed. Over here (Finland), parents still put babies to sleep out in a cot in the winter, and leave them in a pram outside the grocery store while they go shopping. Schoolchildren walk or cycle to school starting from grade 1. (Sadly, the municipal day care nowadays doesn't let younger kids to go about on their own; the hysteria spreads here and often sneaks in via the public sector).

Traffic is a far bigger danger than kidnappings, and the biggest danger to a child who walks to school is the parent of another child who insists on driving the kids to school.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by thomastjeffery »

megy wrote: post #516
thomastjeffery wrote: post #486

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Not to tell you your reaction is wrong, but it's important to remember that cycling is generally more dangerous, and that while you aren't taking action dangerous to those around you, you are likely taking action that makes everyone around you dangerous to you yourself. Even so, cycling is wonderful. I certainly recommend it.

It is not more dangerous to other people on the road.

That's what I said.

Danger goes both ways. If you are on a bicycle rather than in a car, you are more susceptible to the danger created by the cars around you. In effect, all of the cars around you are more dangerous than they were before, because there is a cyclist (you) on the road.

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Post by Xeoncross »

rnd33 wrote: post #510
Xeoncross wrote: post #497

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> show every known biblical text was scribed by human hands Yes, the bible itself claims this (2 Peter 1:21). I was referring to men coming up with the idea and colluding over a millennia. > Many of the story elements and arcs can be found in cultures that pre-date Christ. That is because everything in the New Testament (including Christ's life) was an extension of what had already be told for thousands of years earl…

> I was referring to men coming up with the idea and colluding over a millennia. How do you reconcile with the fact that there are hundreds of texts and stories that have selectively excluded by human hands to create what we today call the bible? If my priest gives me a bible and tells me "This is the word of God", but admits that over the last 2000 years there have been several councils were certain texts and storie…

I am afraid the sheer volume of research on the topic of the canon of scripture is more than I'll ever be able to consume. There are hundreds of books and videos on the subject. If you are really curious then you should probably check them all out. icr.org, carm.org, gotquestions.org, etc...

I'll add that we have thousands of copies and fragments of the bible with nothing more than small changes in spelling. If anything was changed, we would know from the differences in the copies (unless every nation all colluded to have the same bible from day one). In fact, even the Jews would have to have been in on it even though they deny Jesus is their Messiah. (See the dead sea scrolls)

I only know of one "council" where they "decided" on what was in the bible. The Council of Nicea, where they affirmed what was already accepted as canon.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by ptaipale »

drewm1980 wrote: post #503
magic_beans wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was not the driver's fault in this case. The child ran right into a residential road with a high speed limit. The road should not have had such a high speed limit, should have had speed bumps, and possible the little boy's parents should have had a fence. Punishing the driver in this case doesn't fix the problem at all.

Revoking the driver's license permanently will reduce the chance of her killing another child do zero. It's not punishment, it's prevention. We should be telling drivers who injure people "don't worry, this horrible thing will never happen to you again, because driving is no longer a part of your role in society."

You're proposing to punish people for just bad luck. Not a good idea.

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Post by 5ilv3r »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #505
dsnuh wrote: post #487

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Some general advice to fight the pressure to be a perfect parent to a perfect child - 1. Forget the term "playdate". Don't schedule your kids' time to play with other children. I know it sounds strange, but adults used to have adult lives and people would just go visit each other. Their kids would play together while the adults did their thing. 2. Don't post pictures of your kid all the time on social media. No one r…

> 2. Don't post pictures of your kid all the time on social media. No one really cares. Sorry. Send those pictures to your parents or friends directly. For many people, social media is how you send things to parents and friends. It's more straightforward than managing an email list, and needn't be any less real a connection. I don't deny that ubiquitous social media is deforming our interactions, but I think a lot of…

Facebook is notorious for making those connections impossible when they are truly needed most. It's a marketing tool with aggressive filtering, not a family message board.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by Xeoncross »

nkrisc wrote: post #512
Xeoncross wrote: post #497

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> show every known biblical text was scribed by human hands Yes, the bible itself claims this (2 Peter 1:21). I was referring to men coming up with the idea and colluding over a millennia. > Many of the story elements and arcs can be found in cultures that pre-date Christ. That is because everything in the New Testament (including Christ's life) was an extension of what had already be told for thousands of years earl…

Is there any proof these prophecies were written before the events occurred? The simplest explanation is that they were written after the events then pointed to as prophecies to prove the texts are prophetic. That would align very well with what we know about the world and the deceit Man is perfectly capable of. While many people collectively editing and revising a text over millennia is certainly impressive, there i…

Yes, that's a common explanation. https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/w...
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