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James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

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Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

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Post by codezero »

cantrip wrote: post #34
oliv__ wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well... maybe not all the steps.

Anything can be funny given the right person saying it at the appropriate time in the right context Seeing a suicide joke from a person I don't know in the Hacker News thread about the death an individual I respect an hour after it's been released is not my idea of funny.

I am all about dark humor, and it's true when dealing with death, there's no accounting for taste, but thanks for posting this. It's a very clear and sober comment, it doesn't admonish the parent, but shares how the comment made you feel. That is completely and totally appropriate and HN could use a lot more of this.

Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

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Post by slg »

zouhair wrote: post #35

Now we have two suicides of people working in this facet of human right activism. At what number should we start thinking about foul play? There are ways to push people to such extreme acts.

Or two people, one being a known sufferer of depression and the other being known a a sufferer of PTSD, decided to kill themselves like an alarming number of people do who suffer from those problems. Maybe instead turning this into a story about government conspiracies and secret plots to kill citizens we try to turn this into a story about getting people with mental health issues the help they need.

Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

#55

Post by [deleted] »

codezero wrote: post #51
cantrip wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything can be funny given the right person saying it at the appropriate time in the right context Seeing a suicide joke from a person I don't know in the Hacker News thread about the death an individual I respect an hour after it's been released is not my idea of funny.

I am all about dark humor, and it's true when dealing with death, there's no accounting for taste, but thanks for posting this. It's a very clear and sober comment, it doesn't admonish the parent, but shares how the comment made you feel. That is completely and totally appropriate and HN could use a lot more of this.

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Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

#56

Post by ycmbntrthrwaway »

phkahler wrote: post #43
rsre wrote: post #22

First Aaron Swartz, now James Dolan. Sad to see good people like them leave us. Hope they inspire some other wonderful people to follow their steps. EDIT: Well, obviously not all their steps.

Let us not forget Ian Murdock, and all the others lesser well known.

Len Sassaman

Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

#57

Post by faramarz »

haswell wrote: post #38
faramarz wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find talking about it helps. The feelings pass if you allow yourself time to heal, and talking to a coach, a therapist, deep diving with others going through similar stuff helps pass/break through it. But this life we live and all the struggles are all part of the journey. there's no end-destination free of inner conflict. It's recognizing that human suffering is universal, and having compassion for yourself. Throu…

Having compassion for yourself is so important, and so hard to do. When my therapist first mentioned this concept to me, it felt so foreign. It hit me like a ton of bricks that even though my personal issues are far from my fault, and there's no possible way I could have been at fault (childhood abuse that I've struggled with my entire life), I was blaming myself for every aspect of my problems. I'm still struggling,…

For me, I had been stuck in the struggle because I was in my head trying to strive for a place of perfection where my flaws would be fully healed/corrected and never again repeated.

thats an incredibly high standard and pressure to put on ourselves. You're right that we are our own harshest critic.

Have compassion for the human who can still fuck up but fuck up with knowing, because then at least you can see it and be aware of it.. and through time you can correct it.

Self compassion allows you to go through this journey without giving up.

Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

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Post by [deleted] »

slg wrote: post #53
zouhair wrote: post #35

Now we have two suicides of people working in this facet of human right activism. At what number should we start thinking about foul play? There are ways to push people to such extreme acts.

Or two people, one being a known sufferer of depression and the other being known a a sufferer of PTSD, decided to kill themselves like an alarming number of people do who suffer from those problems. Maybe instead turning this into a story about government conspiracies and secret plots to kill citizens we try to turn this into a story about getting people with mental health issues the help they need.

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Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

#59

Post by lfms_dotfile »

cantrip wrote: post #34
oliv__ wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well... maybe not all the steps.

Anything can be funny given the right person saying it at the appropriate time in the right context Seeing a suicide joke from a person I don't know in the Hacker News thread about the death an individual I respect an hour after it's been released is not my idea of funny.

Humor is how many people cope with loss/sadness/etc.

Re: James Dolan, co-creator of SecureDrop, has died

#60

Post by AndrewUnmuted »

cantrip wrote: post #34
oliv__ wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well... maybe not all the steps.

Anything can be funny given the right person saying it at the appropriate time in the right context Seeing a suicide joke from a person I don't know in the Hacker News thread about the death an individual I respect an hour after it's been released is not my idea of funny.

Why did you immediately assume the post was a joke about suicide, rather than a clever and witty remark about the dangers of following your passions/ideals in the face of enormous opposition and psychological torment?
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