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Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

#42

Instead of making us follow these Amp non-standards, Google should give an AMP logo in Google search results and preference (the same as an amp site) if the load time of the page is under 100ms. So now you have a choice, either DIY or use Google's tech to make your site fast. This way it will create dozens of tech companies competing with AMP focused on making the web faster - the end result that Google supposedly wa…

And how would you do that? Would the browser load every single page on a Google search and then badge? You can't test a page's load speed from Google's servers and then expect it to load for the user in the same way. Especially because one of the key points behind AMP is the use of CDNs, especially global ones (like Google's, Microsoft's or Akamai), which greatly speed up load times while also reducing traffic for th…

This. The web host is likely going to try to spoof a low load time by sending a fake page to Google's web crawler. Then it'll be an endless cat and mouse. Also, there are more than a few websites on the internet. It sounds fairly unreasonable to keep fresh numbers on page load times.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Perhaps I'm missing something but why do we need a "console"? Why can't we just post these search-engine related settings in a special file on our servers? That way, we don't have to manage 10 consoles for 10 different search engines.

The Google console is quite helpful in tracking errors on your page. You can obviously do that yourself but for small projects, using Google's console is easier. Search analytics is another topic that obviously needs a page on their side. Overall I'm happy with Google's console, especially compared to Bing.

> The Google console is quite helpful in tracking errors on your page.

Google could publish an open-source tool that you can run to check your page for errors.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how would you do that? Would the browser load every single page on a Google search and then badge? You can't test a page's load speed from Google's servers and then expect it to load for the user in the same way. Especially because one of the key points behind AMP is the use of CDNs, especially global ones (like Google's, Microsoft's or Akamai), which greatly speed up load times while also reducing traffic for th…

This. The web host is likely going to try to spoof a low load time by sending a fake page to Google's web crawler. Then it'll be an endless cat and mouse. Also, there are more than a few websites on the internet. It sounds fairly unreasonable to keep fresh numbers on page load times.

They might be able to crossreference the result from their crawler with metrics from Chrome users that opt-in.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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How does it compare, feature wise to the old one?

Wondering the same thing! These new releases tend to get a lot prettier but they almost always lose important, lesser-known features

My favorite is still Google Voice.

Google: "Ok, lets finally update the UX from a decade ago so we can thread messages... oh yeah but you can't actually configure your voicemail account with your carrier, or even view what your voicemail number is until you revert to legacy google voice. Actually just use legacy if you want to be able to reliably delete messages too"

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

#46

Instead of making us follow these Amp non-standards, Google should give an AMP logo in Google search results and preference (the same as an amp site) if the load time of the page is under 100ms. So now you have a choice, either DIY or use Google's tech to make your site fast. This way it will create dozens of tech companies competing with AMP focused on making the web faster - the end result that Google supposedly wa…

And how would you do that? Would the browser load every single page on a Google search and then badge? You can't test a page's load speed from Google's servers and then expect it to load for the user in the same way. Especially because one of the key points behind AMP is the use of CDNs, especially global ones (like Google's, Microsoft's or Akamai), which greatly speed up load times while also reducing traffic for th…

Ok so it won't be perfect but it can be a very good approximate. They can benchmark the site from the user's city and use that value (hey if speedtest.net can have so many servers in every city I'm sure Google can arrange that too).

As far as CDN goes, nobody is stopping you from using it. If you want a site that rival's Google's AMP then you have to use a CDN. The only difference is now it's your choice what you use rather than being dictated to use their non standard tags and technology.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Here is the link to the new search console: https://search.google.com/search-console My sites aren't available yet but looking forward to trying it

...and if you bookmark that URL for later, it'll simply be titled, "Status". Thanks Google.

Haha, the search engine gigant doesn't have to care about such :-)

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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fuck google. evil crap.

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Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

#49

A link to the Search Console would have been great to have in the blog post.

As posted in another thread here the link seems to be https://search.google.com/search-console

Shows zero of my properties and property selection menu appears to be broken.

Available only to select few users, maybe?

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