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Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by rhino369 » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:43 PM UTC

peatmoss wrote: post #122

lr4444lr wrote: post #109

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It's being downvoted because there is no reason to arrest the person. "They looked for skid marks on the road and took some measurements", and presumably they concluded there was no foul play.

Yeah, still not getting it. Wouldn’t normally a person be detained for questioning if they had just killed a person in some other context? Maybe arrest isn’t warranted—maybe a, “hey you look pretty shook up, would you mind coming down to the station with me to answer a few questions? Cool, I have to let you know before I get started that anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.” But I also…

The police are not supposed to be able to arrest a person they don't think are guilty. The police could probably lie about it and fake probable cause, but they aren't supposed to.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by AznHisoka » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:43 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #224

somebodyfree wrote: post #197

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This did not actually happen: http://reason.com/archives/2017/10/23/ye-olde-ikea-sex-traff...

Apologizing for the source, but sometimes it does happen: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2123200/man-arrested-after-thr...

Yep, this happens all the time in some parts of China as well.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by Myrmornis » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:43 PM UTC

chickenfries wrote: post #93

Myrmornis wrote: post #66

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Non-parent here. I’m surprised to hear calls for a Netflix “safe space” from adults on HN rather than from whiny kids at a liberal arts college. It’s obvious that you’re sincere and that becoming a parent has affected you profoundly.

So you feel sympathy for people on HN, but not for the college students who want to be warned when they're going to read something that might depict some other kind of traumatic experience?

Yes, because the people here are intelligent adults, whereas kids asking for trigger warnings are spoiled embarrassments that need to learn to confront life as it is.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by Myrmornis » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:44 PM UTC

jamiegreen wrote: post #78

Myrmornis wrote: post #66

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Non-parent here. I’m surprised to hear calls for a Netflix “safe space” from adults on HN rather than from whiny kids at a liberal arts college. It’s obvious that you’re sincere and that becoming a parent has affected you profoundly.

They didnt say the movies should be banned from Netflix, but rather that they would like to have some filter in order to avoid such movies.

Sorry, I meant trigger warning.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by perfmode » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

I was hit by a car when I was 7 years old. It was a hit and run. I was thrown into the air. Luckily, I only bruised my shoulder blade.

It was certainly my fault I was in the road, chasing a frisbee.

I can understand why the person would have run away from the scene.

I wish there was more forgiveness in society.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by smitherfield » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

BearGoesChirp wrote: post #155

All the people talking about being unable to handle/comprehend the death of their child, and especially the one line of conversations about the impact of losing one child when you have many more, made me think about something. For most of human history, losing some children was expected. Child mortality rates for most of our history have been abysmal. As species, what impact did that have on us? Child abuse has a lon…

>Many would quicker forgive an ex convict that killed a rival gang member than someone who intentionally seriously injured a child.

When has this ever not been true? People instinctively (and reasonably[1]) consider crimes to be more serious where the victim is more sympathetic or vulnerable, and vice-versa.

[1] Though they might be unreasonable in their sympathies and/or assessments of vulnerability, like a misogynist who always assumes female accusers are liars, and claims a woman punching a man is as serious as the reverse.

Or, the identity of the victim might engender unreasonable, emotional reactions: a jury might vote to convict despite the prosecution not proving the case, or the evidence pointing to a tragic accident, because the victim was a child.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by cozzyd » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

peatmoss wrote: post #122

lr4444lr wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's being downvoted because there is no reason to arrest the person. "They looked for skid marks on the road and took some measurements", and presumably they concluded there was no foul play.

Yeah, still not getting it. Wouldn’t normally a person be detained for questioning if they had just killed a person in some other context? Maybe arrest isn’t warranted—maybe a, “hey you look pretty shook up, would you mind coming down to the station with me to answer a few questions? Cool, I have to let you know before I get started that anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.” But I also…

Cars are sacred in the United States. Even if you're drunk you might only get 10 days in jail: https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170126/old-town/ryne-san-h...

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by rhino369 » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:47 PM UTC

chris_7 wrote: post #69

nkrisc wrote: post #61

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But what procedure are you imagining, exactly? Grilling her until she confesses to something? There was no indication of any crime, just a tragic accident.

http://crashnotaccident.com

Accident doesn't imply it wasn't avoidable.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by cobbzilla » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:47 PM UTC

peatmoss wrote: post #179

cobbzilla wrote: post #118

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Maybe if all the traffic fatalities occurred on the same day each year it would be a more apt comparison. I bet you'd see some political will power then.

Well, if we’re doing > 10 9/11s per year, and we’ve had 16 years of comparison since 9/11, my back-of-a-napkin reasoning suggests we’re almost half way to a year’s worth of 9/11s.

Another reason the 9/11 comparison is not so great: from a mass-social-psychology POV it was (a) very easy to blame an out-group (terrorists), and (b) the singular nature of the event represented a tremendous opportunity for a huge power-grab by the government. With traffic fatalities (a) we largely have only ourselves to blame, and (b) there is no big power-grab to be found.

Re: The day I accidentally killed a little boy

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Post by mcguire » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 4:47 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #57

DarronWyke wrote: post #39

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Not the OP, but my take on it would be that every State is different from each other, and even within the State there's differences. Take a look at where I live, Texas. Dallas will be different than Austin which will be different than Houston. Any metropolitan area, even within the same borders, will have different culture and mindset than another. Compare that to another State and the divide only widens. Most countr…

Stockholm and Lapland have significantly different cultures, infrastructure requirements, populations et cetera. We can argue which has the bigger difference, but we should be able to agree that the differences are similar in kind.

Lapland (Sweden) is about 100,000 km^2, about the same as Kentucky, although if you add Finland's Lapland, you something much more comparable to Wyoming, which is a good match density wise, too: about 2 / km^2.