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The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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They were actually grieving their company's (marginal) lost profits from your decision not to use a smartphone, so it was not as irrational as you think.

Retail employees don’t care about marginal lost profits of the corporate on individual interactions.

They do if they're paid spiffs on them.

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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> I am terrified about giving smartphones to my kids. Hey smartphone makers, if you're listening: Let me set an alternate PIN that unlocks the phone in a limited access mode, or "kid mode." Only pre-approved apps are available. Only pre-approved contacts can be called/texted. In-game purchases require the more secure PIN. Maybe when the phone is in this mode I can track its location easily, and make it emit a noise.…

> In-game purchases require the more secure PIN Wait, what? I'd rather say: No in-game purchases for minors at all.

I think that's what was meant; a limited access PIN for the kid, and a "more secure" full access PIN for the parent. That way the parent can approve in-game purchases and that sort of thing if they wish.

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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I am terrified about giving smartphones to my kids. France's new rule (no smartphones in schools - no exceptions) is genius, and I applaud them for that. What is a supercomputer in your pocket, with access to a significant portion of the sum total of human knowledge, good for, for most people? Playing fucking candy crush. We wish that we, humans, were better, but we are not. So what can we do about it? I have no idea…

> I am terrified about giving smartphones to my kids. Hey smartphone makers, if you're listening: Let me set an alternate PIN that unlocks the phone in a limited access mode, or "kid mode." Only pre-approved apps are available. Only pre-approved contacts can be called/texted. In-game purchases require the more secure PIN. Maybe when the phone is in this mode I can track its location easily, and make it emit a noise.…

They have programs that do this now. I dont know them off the top of my head by I know parents that have full control over their kids smart phone from their phone. They allow apps to be run in certain time windows, or lets the parent lock and unlock them at will, etc...

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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> I am terrified about giving smartphones to my kids. Hey smartphone makers, if you're listening: Let me set an alternate PIN that unlocks the phone in a limited access mode, or "kid mode." Only pre-approved apps are available. Only pre-approved contacts can be called/texted. In-game purchases require the more secure PIN. Maybe when the phone is in this mode I can track its location easily, and make it emit a noise.…

Our teenage son carries a flip phone. Always has, always will, until he can pay for something else.

Same for mine. I figure if he displays the maturity and initiative to get a job, then he's qualified.

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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Does anyone have ideas as to how one could get involved in combatting these effects? I mean as a cause to fight for, where one could make an impact on others' (particularly the younger gen) lives. I'm aware of the organization Time Well Spent led by Tristan Harris, and have signed up to volunteer (but have not heard back). In the meantime, what can I do as an individual? This is something I've grown to really care ab…

You could check out secure-scuttlebutt (scuttlebutt.nz).

It's an open source and decentralized social media platform. I hope that the decentralization will remove the advertising profit incentive and then we can actually design apps to improve people's lives instead of maximizing screen time.

But who knows. Maybe this is human nature and we're fucked regardless of the underlying technology.

Either way, the best thing to do for the younger gen is to spend time with them and teach them about this stuff so that they can make informed decisions as they grow up. I don't think my generation had the luxury of making an informed decision because it was all so new and the people in SV did not have the moral compass required to weild this new power benevolently.

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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I am terrified about giving smartphones to my kids. France's new rule (no smartphones in schools - no exceptions) is genius, and I applaud them for that. What is a supercomputer in your pocket, with access to a significant portion of the sum total of human knowledge, good for, for most people? Playing fucking candy crush. We wish that we, humans, were better, but we are not. So what can we do about it? I have no idea…

> there will always be people who choose trivial entertainment, and there will always be folks who chase knowledge and self improvement That's why the entire thing seems like a non-issue to me. If some people don't want to do anything useful with their lives, then who are we to prohibit them from continuing to do-nothing and thereby starving themselves? (Of course, we already, rightfully, prohibit people from harming…

I wouldn't have an issue except those who choose to waste their lives still get to take from those around them and society in general.

If people who make no meaningful contribution to society have no entitlement to any benefit of society then i wouldn't care.

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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I did the same with my TI85 as well. Part of it I think is we have to focus on productivity and providing value because the hardware couldn't render high end experiences. Creating seems to have fallen by the day wide compared to mindless consuming, interaction and feeding content to social aggregation companies who sell users attention to advertisers. As dreary as this topic is, it's kind of nice to see a healthy exp…

I think the key thing with programming on the T/Is was that input handling and output was super super simple. Text display addressable by row/column... something like 8x24 if memory serves? No mucking about with event loops, window handlers, setup functions...

Yup.

ticalc.org was great too. Build your own serial transfer cable... Build external storage..

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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The thing I really, really love about having a Google Pixel phone is the camera, and its with me all the time. I was riding my bicycle to work on Friday and saw the sunrise...it was quite beautiful: https://www.realms.org/pics/IMG_20180105_072614_1.jpg Besides that, I have very few apps installed on my phone. I basically use it as a mobile web browser from time to time.

I switched back to a "good old plain, non distracting phone" 2013 ( http://www.atterobay.com/public/upload_images/model_images/o... ) and have been pretty happy. That said, I have to admin that the "features" I'm missing are a camera and a map.

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Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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The thing I really, really love about having a Google Pixel phone is the camera, and its with me all the time. I was riding my bicycle to work on Friday and saw the sunrise...it was quite beautiful: https://www.realms.org/pics/IMG_20180105_072614_1.jpg Besides that, I have very few apps installed on my phone. I basically use it as a mobile web browser from time to time.

I switched back to a "good old plain, non distracting phone" 2013 ( http://www.atterobay.com/public/upload_images/model_images/o... ) and have been pretty happy. That said, I have to admin that the "features" I'm missing are a camera and a map.

I'm with you! I'd love a smartphone that has a great camera, access to map & weather info and nothing more!

Re: The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is damaging our minds

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Apple seriously needs to allow us to have proper parental tools. I can get tools on Android that allow me to limit app use, website access, and other things. The best I can do on Apple is take the phone away when the child shouldn't use it. I literally have two Apple phones (because I'm locked into the iMessage/Find my Friends ecosystem) - one with nothing but basic apps and locked down with Restrictions, and one whi…

Agreed, time limits restricted to Guided Access is only a partial (and depending on the user - faulty) solution. User accounts with restrictions and general time limits/operating hours like Amazon Fire devices (but without the frustrating UX) would be awesome.
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