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The Great Attention Heist

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Re: The Great Attention Heist

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I would argue the opposite. The poor are incentivized to use free (but containing ads) products. The rich can pay their way out of those attention seeking ads.

Or pay someone else to take care of certain chores so that they have the time to sit down and think.

Seriously been considering doing this for food.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

#42

old news I guess but I recently realized I could block elements with ublock origin so I blocked the "hot meta questions" and "hot questions from other stack exchange sites" elements from stack overflow because I'd see some slightly interesting topic and get sucked in. not sure what other similar helpful things I can do. I unfollow agressively on Facebook. use Fbpurity to filter as much as possible. don't use Twitter.…

There is...it’s called Freedom. It’s a bit buggy, but it works for my purposes. I use that on iOS and Cold Turkey on PC

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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Just engaging with all the devices is a job in itself. Its very tough to focus.

I keep all social media & news apps in a tablet that I refer to as the "time-killer". Controlling the alerts is a losing game. So, I just put all in a separate device. Even with browser, I have a separate profile that I use for HN & reddit.

Even my phone is silent most of the times. I wish there was a answering machine app, so I can respond to calls at my convenience. In my circle, we actually just voice message via whatsapp, so no one is disturbed and can respond at a convenient time.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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I'd really like my phone to be able to prioritize notifications and only bug me for important things. Calls, SMS, notifications etc should all be hidden and prioritized. A call from my wife, or someone I know should be immediately shown. Notifications about important emails as well, not so much about the latest offer available on amazon.com. Phones make it hard to control the level of notifications and could do a bet…

In android there is a "do not disturb" option that silences everything but calls (you can drill it down further to starred contacts or none at all) and sms messages (also drillable), I always have this on.

I turn off read receipts where I can, allowing me greater control of when I respond and I also silence group chats and people who are bothersome indefinitely. If they are important enough I will find time to answer them, regardless of how "noisy" or "noiseless" they are. If it's urgent, they can call.

You can install a pihole server at your home that will block advertisers through DNS, allowing you to use even free apps without ads. (I haven't done this yet since I moved recently).

As for emails, I imagine you can have a single email address on your phone for important emails and configure email forwarding rules from your default email, I haven't tried this though.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

#45
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Not $10 as a lump sum, but a subscription?

Get netflix. Binge watch for a month. Cancel. Repeat when you feel like and can afford.

That was exactly the point OP was making. For a poorer person, Netflix might be a few times a year splurge. What happens when an anticipated slow month turns busy? This person is torn between "wasting" $10 that they really can't afford to spend again next month or neglect other things in their life to get their money's worth this month.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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Every other month I go on a media diet: no social media, no news, no unnecessary browsing of any kind - only books and a small number of podcasts are allowed (plus whatever Internet usage is necessary for work). I've been doing this for more than a year now, and it has helped me feel a lot less "fragmented". I highly recommend it.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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Just engaging with all the devices is a job in itself. Its very tough to focus. I keep all social media & news apps in a tablet that I refer to as the "time-killer". Controlling the alerts is a losing game. So, I just put all in a separate device. Even with browser, I have a separate profile that I use for HN & reddit. Even my phone is silent most of the times. I wish there was a answering machine app, so I can respo…

"Just engaging with all the devices is a job in itself. Its very tough to focus. I keep all social media & news apps in a tablet that I refer to as the "time-killer". Controlling the alerts is a losing game."

I have manually disabled nearly all notifications on my phone, which works pretty well for me (but I think your isolation strategy sounds like a pretty good one, too).

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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Do people really click more ads the longer they spend on Facebook? It feels like an unreasonable assumption to me. Clicking on an advert takes you away from the app, so if you design an app that people never want to stop using then they're never going to click an ad. The 'ideal' (for Facebook, not for users of Facebook) is an app that people want to use enough to be aware of an ad that's displayed on the page, but th…

That is exactly what they've done, training you to quickly open the app to check for notifications/messages/event invites. More recently, after running a script found on here to unfollow everyone in my feed, I've noticed that Facebook will "invent" notifications - someone's birthday, an event near me, etc - to keep the dopamine slot machine going

> More recently, after running a script found on here to unfollow everyone in my feed, I've noticed that Facebook will "invent" notifications - someone's birthday, an event near me, etc - to keep the dopamine slot machine going

They crank that stuff up when you haven't visited them in a while as well. It comes off a super desperate if you're not addicted, but I'm sure it must work on someone.

If try to disable your account, the last screen confronts you with big banners saying so-and-so will miss you if you leave Facebook.

Facebook is the most emotionally manipulative application I've ever seen.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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We haven't seen nothing yet. Smartphone addiction is a thing, but at least you can put your phone in your pocket on silent and go on with your day.

But AR lenses are coming and will be the next big thing in my opinion. Imagine being immersed in this semi-virtual world all day long. Imagine being a child and grow up in a world where these things are ubiquitous. Imagine what this will do to their attention.

Re: The Great Attention Heist

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post #24
post #20

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The decent way is to unfollow them.

The decent way is to stop using facebook.

Why not all three:

1. Tell your Facebook followers that the platform is manipulating and using them (by posting articles like this one to your feed).

2. Unfollow the most annoying ones (or send them even more personalized messages about how they're being used).

3. Leave Facebook once you think enough people have gotten them message.

Facebook might die quicker if enough people do this, and it will be better for everyone, not just you.

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