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Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by sethammons »

justboxing wrote: post #9
dvt wrote: post #4

This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

I second this. I too started intermittent fasting ( 16 hours fast, 8 hour eating window) and can confirm benefits that OP has mentioned. I too noticed better sleep, increased energy and reduced GI inflammation (poop better lol). I started delaying my breakfast later and later until I was able to eat "breakfast" at 1 PM. I work out (boxing or weights) in the evening at 6 to 7 / 7:30 PM 5 days a week atleast, so my las…

I tried IF, but I couldn't find a schedule that worked. I work out with high intensity at 5am. So I want to start eating then to maximize nutrient intake. This made "lunch" at 9am and "dinner" at noon. I'd find myself lethargic for the morning workout.

Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by dragonwriter »

meuk wrote: post #162
hycaria wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

You might be a bit careful with criticizing the US on Hacker News, I have been permanently banned for similar remarks. That aside, a large part of it seems to be culture. If you're living in a university-owned dorm, it is often mandatory to buy a card which provides dinner (usually at a ridiculous price). When you don't cook, you are less involved with the ingredients of your dinner, and more inclined to just 'take w…

> You might be a bit careful with criticizing the US on Hacker News, I have been permanently banned for similar remarks.

People criticize the US without problem all the time on HN; if you have been banned, it wasn't because you were criticizing the US (you may have been critical of the US in the comment that provoked the ban, but that wasn't the feature of the comment that provoked it.)

Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by nxc18 »

lwansbrough wrote: post #98

I have pretty mild IBS symptoms, but I concur - exercising at the very least has helped regulate my gut. At least to the extent that I can live a normal life without having to be constantly aware of the nearest bathroom. Can’t recommend regular exercise enough to those experiencing similar issues. Running would be my recommendation. I wonder if the rhythm of exercise is partially responsible.

I don’t know if I have IBS, but I’ve noticed that lately if I push it too much with spicy foods I’m being punished in the form of unusually unpleasant and urgent BMs later. This is particularly annoying as I really, really like spicy food.

I started doing intense (for me) cardio every morning and without significant diet changes I’m already seeing the symptoms disappear. I sort of came to the same conclusion the article did from personal experience. I wish the study did more frequent samples so we could see how long it took for the changes to happen as I fully recognize that my own experience could be coincidental.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #144
wutbrodo wrote: post #82

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> Dropping sugar from your diet definitely is beneficial, however it's easier said than done. There's sugar in almost any food. After all, the fructose in apples and bananas is sugar as well, just not processed sugar. People are generally referring to dropping _added_ sugar when they talk about dropping sugar. Pretty much every model of nutrition thinks that whole fruit is good for you (in general, and of course excl…

It isn't really unhealthy as a part of your overall diet, but that peanut butter is tricky. Peanut butter lends itself to overeating - a serving size is only 2 tablespoons. About the size of a ping-pong ball. This isn't consistent with the ways most of us eat the stuff. Not to mention that it is just packed with calories. The combination makes it really easy to overeat. Peanuts are a slightly easier option to control…

How do most people eat peanut butter? I like it spread on oatcakes - it's just ground peanuts, so it's like eating a handful of unsalted, unsweetened nuts.

USAmericans have a confection confusingly also called "peanut butter" that is high in sugar and salt, sadly most UK supermarkets now only stock the confection and not the nut-butter.

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Post by astura »

sethammons wrote: post #156
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #125

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Yup, what I'm usually missing in those is the actual difference in calorie intake. Going vegan for example will reduce a lot because you'd naturally eat less fats. Going carb-free, same story. They're probably more popular than counting calories because there's Rules to adhere to, which is more easy than trying to guess how many grams of pasta are in your plate.

> what I'm usually missing in those is the actual difference in calorie intake... Check out "That Sugar Film," it was on Amazon Prime when I saw it. Highly recommend. In it, he goes from a zero-sugar diet to a "recommend healthy amount of sugar" (and from "healthy" sources — he is not eating candy) while maintaining the same calorie count and exercise routine. Spoiler: he gains weight and inches and develops a fatty…

I didn't know anything about the film so I looked it up.

Spoiler: the summary given in this comment is not accurate and the film spouts a bunch of quackery.

He didn't eat he "recommend healthy amount of sugar," that would be no more than less than the equivalent amount in a can of soda.

He didn't get liver disease.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa...

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Post by kuschku »

anonu wrote: post #168
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

Diet guidance in America has been co-opted by capitalistic food companies who push their processed junk our way - going on for decades now. The government is complicit of course. Let's not forget the laughable food pyramid [1] which adorned the walls of every school in the US for most of the 90s and undoubtedly created much confusion about how to eat (ie: fat bad, carbs good) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_py…

The food pyramid would be okay, if you’d actually eat the bread that the authors envisioned – full-grain rye bread, unsweetened, unbleached. That has a much higher fiber content, and much lower glycemic index.

Look at the images in the article. Notice the huge "unrefined carbs" part, and the tiny little "free sugars" part?

This is the bread the authors envisioned you to eat: https://www.baeckerei-guenther.de/cms/upload/sortiment/brot/...

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Post by tgb »

DrScump wrote: post #68
dvt wrote: post #4

This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. The proper term for that strategy (which I follow as well, but I need a smaller window, generally 6 hours) is time-restricted feeding , or TRF. Intermittent fasting generally refers to periodic fasts of 1600 kcal/day or less spanning multiple days, such as the Fasting Mimicking Diet (FMD).

Is that a typo or do you really consider a 1600 kcal/day diet a fast? Wikipedia lists 500-600kcal as usually being allowed on a 5:2 intermittent fast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting

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Post by ntsplnkv2 »

nazgul17 wrote: post #91
cageface wrote: post #62

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This guy lost 50kg eating nothing but white potatoes for a year: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/... I personally wouldn't recommend that but it underlines the point that not all carbs are created equal. Our bodies process complex carbs with fiber very differently than refined sugars.

Additionally, carbs can be more difficult to absorb if they are mixed with fibres. Sugars in apples are an example.

This is why most keto diets specify net carbs, which subtracts fiber out of the carb total.

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Post by bluntfang »

hycaria wrote: post #81
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

>I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods.

they may be similar physically, but they are not similar culturally.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Graziano_M wrote: post #53
barrkel wrote: post #35

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I've only eaten at 12 noon and 8pm for years, but just because that's lunch and dinner and I don't eat breakfast. I wasn't aware it could be called fasting.

Why do you think breakfast is called 'break fast'?

Because historically people would fast for religious reasons, eg Lent, and a rich meal after that period would be a break-fast. A meal like eggs, pancake, bacon might form a break-fast. Then as ordinary people grew richer they'd take a rich meal of similar form much more often, habitually in the morning. Finally all morning meals became known as breakfast, even the ones that resemble a traditional fasting diet (oatmeal and water, or dry bread, say).

Am I close?

Modern usage of "fast" tends to mean not eating at all. Historic British usage would be most associated with the Lenten fast I'd imagine.

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