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Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by sdrothrock »

ak39 wrote: post #10
Meekro wrote: post #5

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Could you describe this in more detail? When do you stop eating, and for how long?

https://medium.com/the-mission/the-sweet-spot-for-intermitte... According to Jason Fung the sweet spot is 18 to 24 hours of fasting for fat loss and autophagy benefits. A 48hr fast shows better results for autophagy but the question of sustainable life style then emerges for the 48 hr schedule. I fast for 20 hours everyday eating once in the evening. My anecdata confirms that it works for fat loss and improved mornin…

How large (calorically, macros if you know) are your evening meals?

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Post by lsc »

starjockey wrote: post #39

Are they doing the exercises outside?Maybe they are measuring the effects of normalized vitamin D3 levels... I smell a great purge in healthy articles.Myself im going to stick to my guns and common sense http://www.unz.com/jthompson/diet-is-iq-test/

You used 'vitamin D3 levels' and 'just use common sense' in the same post. You have no way of knowing if vitamin D3 makes any difference at all without delving into scientific literature and statistics.

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

abcd_f wrote: post #37
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

> Shed 20lbs without even exercising. Simply not drinking carbonated soda will do that. Ditto counting calories with no changes to the diet composition. Pasta is fine, potatoes are OK, even deep fried ones. Just eat less, basically, and you will shed weight.

Perhaps. But the most interesting aspect of this is that I never feel hungry, ever. I eat as many bananas and apples as I can stuff my face with, and keep losing weight.

Best diet ever. Luckily I don't need much variety. I throw in some hotdogs (Nathan's brand, no added sugar/corn starch/dextrose) when I want some variety. Also you can put coconut milk in chicken with garlic and spices and it's the best thing.

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Post by stevenwoo »

dawhizkid wrote: post #7
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

Bananas and apples have plenty of sugar in them FYI. Depending on the brand, same with peanut butter.

A difference is if one eats an apple or banana, one gets some fiber and substance to food that probably satiates appetite more than straight sugar does. Most of the calories in peanut butter come from fat - this probably satiates hunger more than eating the equivalent amount of sugar as well.

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Post by lsc »

sa46 wrote: post #38
cycrutchfield wrote: post #32

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Getting x mg of fructose from eating an apple is significantly different than ingesting x mg of fructose from a soda, for example. Don’t be pedantic.

I don't see any pedantry. OP said they dropped all sugar which would imply natural sugars as well. > I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. [...] > I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. It's not clear to me why sugar from an apple is better than sugar from soda. Can you explain or link to a source?

>It's not clear to me why sugar from an apple is better than sugar from soda. Can you explain or link to a source?

The obvious difference is that I can only eat so many apples; I've gotta eat three apples to get as much sugar as a soda pop (or a cup of apple juice, for that matter... apple juice has more sugar than soda pop.)

There is also a claim that the effort to digest an apple makes it a lot better for you than drinking the same amount of apple juice.

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Post by jjeaff »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #43
abcd_f wrote: post #37

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> Shed 20lbs without even exercising. Simply not drinking carbonated soda will do that. Ditto counting calories with no changes to the diet composition. Pasta is fine, potatoes are OK, even deep fried ones. Just eat less, basically, and you will shed weight.

Perhaps. But the most interesting aspect of this is that I never feel hungry, ever. I eat as many bananas and apples as I can stuff my face with, and keep losing weight. Best diet ever. Luckily I don't need much variety. I throw in some hotdogs (Nathan's brand, no added sugar/corn starch/dextrose) when I want some variety. Also you can put coconut milk in chicken with garlic and spices and it's the best thing.

>Best diet ever.

No bread, no pasta, no potatoes? I beg to differ.

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Post by Fricken »

drdrey wrote: post #14
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I have now been seeing from numerous sources that in order to lose weight, diet dominates exercise. One of the reasons is that exercise is associated with compensatory behaviors (such as increased hunger). So exercise for the health benefits, but alter your diet to lose weight. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-para...

The Dutch have the lowest obesity rates in the developed world, at 8%, and 35% of their trips are taken by bicycle. Is that just a coincidence? I mean,technically, sure, you got to eat less than you burn to lose weight, but observably, people who regularly get moderate exercise as an ongoing practice tend to have their weight under control.

I had one winter where I didn't cycle and I gained 15 pounds before I even noticed. It took a little under a month to lose, which I did by eating less, but I also got back on the bike. That's the only time I've gained weight, and losing it wasn't some special act of will or anything, I decided to do it and I did it.

The rest of my family is sedentary, and fat. They're always talking about how they've got to lose weight but they're intimidated by it and they never stick with their diet plans for long. They don't have the intimate relationship with their metabolism that someone who excercise daily has.

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Post by carlmr »

catdog wrote: post #36
drdrey wrote: post #14

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I have now been seeing from numerous sources that in order to lose weight, diet dominates exercise. One of the reasons is that exercise is associated with compensatory behaviors (such as increased hunger). So exercise for the health benefits, but alter your diet to lose weight. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-para...

You also have to do an awful lot of exercise to burn a substantial amount of calories.

If there's any exercise that has helped me shed weight, it's hiking. By being moderately active throughout the whole day you easily burn an extra 1500-2000kcals. Jogging has never really helped in shedding weight for me, just general fitness.

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Post by Graziano_M »

dvt wrote: post #4

This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

Do you drink coffee before then? I could probably do this diet most days (I've done many days within a 10 hour window) but I 'start the clock' early if you count black coffee, since it's something I start every morning with.

EDIT: See you answered that question. I should get back on this.

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Post by carlmr »

plinkplonk wrote: post #25
dvt wrote: post #8

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I stop eating at 8PM and don't eat until the next day at 12PM (so my "breakfast" is actually at lunch). My fast lasts ~16 hours daily, giving me an 8-hour feeding window (my friends always make fun of that term). We're already used to an 8-hour fast (sleeping), so it's really not a huge lifestyle change. I don't do anything fancy with calories or macronutrients, anymore. I did when I was going to the gym more regular…

So essentially you are just skipping breakfast?

And limiting late night meals. It's important that you have a long enough fasting window.

If you regularly eat until midnight, you'll have to skip lunch as well.

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