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Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by paulcole »

ModernMech wrote: post #38
dragonsky67 wrote: post #10

1950's Can we have a study of Comic Book addiction in Children. 1960's Can we have a study of Television addiction in Children. 1970's Can we have a study of Dungeons and Dragons addiction in children 1980's Can we have a study of Console game addiction in Children. 1990's Can we have a study of Computer game addiction in Children. 2000's Can we have a study of Internet addiction in Children. 2010's Can we have a stu…

I've seen versions of several of these ruin people's lives very close to me. For example, I knew someone who played WOW to the detriment of his schooling, health, and social life. WOW is another product that is explicitly engineered to be addictive. The difference between then and now is cell phones and social media are consumed at a scale that affects almost everyone, to a degree that hasn't been seen before. It's w…

>I've seen versions of several of these ruin people's lives very close to me.

Well your ones of anecdotes have sold me.

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Post by iamthirsty »

hilyen wrote: post #73

They should be pushing for a study on neck injury / muscle strain on smart phone use. Millennials and the next gen after are going to pay dearly from injuries from bending their necks/heads down for years and years looking at their phones.

I've recently made an active effort to combat this — now I mind my posture almost obsessively.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by brightball »

CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #29

I think it's worth taking a look at the parental controls that Nintendo put in for the Switch. They have a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bAayBtcb0 I think it's worth watching, if for no other reason than to see Bowser & Bowser Jr.. iOS app link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1190074407 Play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nintendo.z... For me, the only annoyance is th…

IMO the biggest difference is the style of games. Switch games are much more comprehensive like Zelda.

iPad games are geared towards button mashing and showing ads for other games that do the exact same thing.

A switch game will be $30-60. An iPad game will be “free”. Subjecting your kids to advertising driven games which aim to have them play much as possible to drive revenues is noticeably different. I’ve taken away the iPad entirely after seeing how my kids respond to it.

Contrast it with the WiiU or Switch that we’ve had and it’s a totally different experience. Right now I TRUST Nintendo with the game experience that’s best for my kids.

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Post by krisives »

Full disclosure: I work for a company called DnsLearning (although we are rebranding to StudyCity)

Our system is simple, you point your child's device at a DNS server then add various accounts to supported educational sites like Khan Academy, Duolingo, Prodigy Math, etc. Our server detects when your child earns points on these platforms and disables access to non-educational (junk) sites until they earn X points to unlock Y time. Most of our user-base has noticed their kids now fully understand the value of their time instead of being stuck in a zombie-like YouTube spell of watching 5 hours of minecraft videos recommended next.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by decebalus1 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #62
quickthrower2 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with doing all of these studies? Aren't you glad we know about the harmful effects of tobacco smoke, UV light, radiation, too much sugar etc.?

Yeah, because those are all equivalent. "People who smoke are getting lung cancer. We'd better investigate the carcinogenic properties of tobacco." "People who get too much sun are exhibiting symptoms from melanoma to premature aging. Could this be related to UV exposure?" "People who work with radioactive material are dropping like flies. What the heck's up with that?" "People who consume excessive sugar are experie…

> Kids who spend a lot of time on iPhones are

showing signs of decreasing attention spans and cognitive abilities [1]. This may be misdiagnosed as ADHD and then medicated. Yeah, they're fine, you guess. I'll cite you the next time someone brings it up to assure them the kids are fine.

[1]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5403814/

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Post by emodendroket »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #70
emodendroket wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, of course, everything seems obvious in hindsight.

And resources for scientific snipe hunts are basically unlimited.

The idea that phones are changing our attention span and giving rise to harmful addictive behaviors, especially applied to children, does not strike me as outlandish or unworthy of investigation.

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Post by tlrobinson »

brightball wrote: post #75
CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #29

I think it's worth taking a look at the parental controls that Nintendo put in for the Switch. They have a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bAayBtcb0 I think it's worth watching, if for no other reason than to see Bowser & Bowser Jr.. iOS app link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1190074407 Play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nintendo.z... For me, the only annoyance is th…

IMO the biggest difference is the style of games. Switch games are much more comprehensive like Zelda. iPad games are geared towards button mashing and showing ads for other games that do the exact same thing. A switch game will be $30-60. An iPad game will be “free”. Subjecting your kids to advertising driven games which aim to have them play much as possible to drive revenues is noticeably different. I’ve taken awa…

I don't have kids so I haven't looked into it, but I assumed there would be more games with educational value on iOS than Nintendo.

Is curating your kid's apps to only allow such games an option?

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Post by [deleted] »

emodendroket wrote: post #78
CamperBob2 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And resources for scientific snipe hunts are basically unlimited.

The idea that phones are changing our attention span and giving rise to harmful addictive behaviors, especially applied to children, does not strike me as outlandish or unworthy of investigation.

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