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Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown

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Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown

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Could data become part of UNESCO's world heritage? Nowadays alot of culture happens in the digital space and it's always a tragedy when huge amounts of cultural creations just vanish into nothing. Web archives are perhaps not enough, lots of content are inside walled gardens, convincing a company to release all that information is a different question of course :)

I love archive.org, so.. so much.

That is why they got a donation this year from - every bit helps :)

Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown

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> The entire Archiverse archives are posted under an open source license, free for mirroring or even personal download if you want to perform a deep, offline analysis. I hope you've got a 17TB hard drive lying around... I'm curious about the legality of offering these under an open source license, since I'd assume that the original content isn't in the public domain yet? Unless Nintendo's TOS had placed these under t…

Is it really a grey area? Surely it's just plain old copyright infringement? If facebook shuts down it doesn't mean all multimedia content that was ever hosted there suddenly gets dumped into the public domain. At most you gave the company that run the site an irrevocable, international license to that content (depending on their TOS), it doesn't apply to everyone else and it didn't get put into the public domain or…

Indeed, they've run afoul of this before when mirroring sites, often niche ones that notice the uptick in traffic and whose users are attentive to their content rights.

It's an interesting conflict -- there is a benefit to saving things in case of site failure, but simultaneously it is a problem on a copyright basis, particularly for written works where the author themselves feels small next to the Internet Archive. They've walked a fine, fine line with various items like DOS abandonware games where the owners are potentially in more of a position to "lawyer up."

Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown

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I don't understand why Nintendo has shut it down in the first place, in spite of its popularity. These community features can enhance user experience, especially when implemented right in the game. Why wouldn't they even continue Miiverse on later consoles like the Switch?

They didn't want to deal with having to moderate it.

Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown

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I don't understand why Nintendo has shut it down in the first place, in spite of its popularity. These community features can enhance user experience, especially when implemented right in the game. Why wouldn't they even continue Miiverse on later consoles like the Switch?

It's hard to be sure, but it seems like it could be a cultural shift more than anything else. The Wii, Wii U and 3DS had tons of little extra services and channels and what not that didn't directly relate to the games, and often felt like they were going for the 'toy' feel more than anything else. Meanwhile, the Switch seems to be designed like a simple games console with the games being the first and only priority and the extraneous stuff being cut out altogether.

Kind of like they wanted to go back to basics after the Wii U underperformed.

Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can’t make such a promise that destroying a certain server in a data center may or may not cost the world something valuable. Think on a different level of abstraction. Cyberwar is a thing; cyberweapons are a thing. You could totally have rules about what online services state-sponsored malware shouldn't try to attack. It would make just as much sense to protect Archive.org as it would to protect the Library of…

Except political motives exist to preserve the powers that be, and their culture. There’s less skin in the game, when the preserved items are thousand year old buildings in ruins, of intrinsic interest to tourists from all walks of life. Compare examples of physical architecture to bar fliers advertising happy hour and ladies night. Video game profiles rank closer to bar fliers, even if the architecture in ruins is t…

This discussion isn’t about profiles per se; Miiverse was essentially a game-visible https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oekaki forum. It’s the drawings that are worth preserving, being actual acts of artistic creation.

I mean, you could still compare this to things posted up in a bar—but it’d be the doodles people have made on their placemats. Some of those placemat doodles are genuine works of art, you know!

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