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Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

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#33
It’s very frustrating to watch America decline and not being able to do anything about it. Has democracy failed? Is it time for a rekindling of the study of comparative politics? It seems the Chinese have a viable solution to the problem of a largely uneducated and passive populace.

Re: Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

#34
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db293.htm

“Life expectancy at birth decreased 0.1 year from 78.7 years in 2015 to 78.6 in 2016, largely because of increases in mortality from unintentional injuries, suicide, and Alzheimer’s disease, with unintentional injuries making the largest contribution. This is the second year in a row life expectancy has declined (1). Changes in death rates at younger ages have a larger impact on life expectancy than changes at older ages. The increases in death rates at the younger ages from 2015 to 2016 resulted in the decrease in life expectancy observed during that period.“

PS I got this link from another commenter here.

Re: Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

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It's probably because life expectancy, like maternal deaths (of which the US has U.S. the worst rate in the developed world), can't be faked and spin-doctored by government sources as easily as can unemployment rates.

And by "it's", I refer to the fact that this is known, not to the reason why this happens. Unemployment rates, declining middle class, bleeding working class, and people working shitty subsistence jobs that count as "full employment" would be my guess for the latter (and all that comes from eat: low self esteem, depression, drinking, drugs, poor health coverage, homelessness, et al).

Re: Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

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post #8

Lingering effects of the great recession. There is a very strong and well studied relationship between unemployment, economic stress, and drug abuse. These are people who are depressed (clinically, economically, or often both), and they are self medicating. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/04/joblessne... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3935688/ Unfortunately the media-driven obsession wit…

> Lingering effects of the great recession Other countries went through the Great Recession, didn't recover as well as the U.S., and are not suffering from the problem. Also, the problem started in the last couple of years while the Great Recession began in 2008 (EDIT: and has since ended, with unemployment low for the last two years).

>Other countries went through the Great Recession, didn't recover as well as the U.S., and are not suffering from the problem.

Other countries (in the developed world at least) don't do as a shitty job dealing with welfare and healthcare, or have people feel like shit for not being "winners".

>and has since ended, with unemployment low for the last two years)

Unemployment is the easiest thing for government to sweep under the carpet. Heck, if they could fully get their way, working 12hours/day for $1/month would still qualify as employment.

Even so: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/12/great-r...

Or:

Economist Logan said that when he looks back, he sees a permanently changed economy. The downturn "left a lingering impact on jobs and on some sectors that never recovered," he said. For example, just before the recession, about 14 million Americans worked in manufacturing; today, that sector has about 1.5 million fewer jobs. And millions of families saw their home equity wiped away in foreclosures, Logan said. "A lot of people lost their jobs and their net worth. And then they had to take a lower paying job. ... It was a blow that they never recovered from," he said.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/14/570556990/unhappy-10th-annive...

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/21/the-great-recession-is-the-...

Re: Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

#38

It’s very frustrating to watch America decline and not being able to do anything about it. Has democracy failed? Is it time for a rekindling of the study of comparative politics? It seems the Chinese have a viable solution to the problem of a largely uneducated and passive populace.

Democracy can't fail until we actually try it. Public opinion has about the impact of statistical noise on public policy: https://www.globalresearch.ca/study-congress-literally-doesn...

Personally, I'd characterize the US as a plutocracy.

Re: Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

#39

It’s very frustrating to watch America decline and not being able to do anything about it. Has democracy failed? Is it time for a rekindling of the study of comparative politics? It seems the Chinese have a viable solution to the problem of a largely uneducated and passive populace.

And the Chinese solution is?

Re: Life expectancy in America has declined for two years in a row

#40

It’s very frustrating to watch America decline and not being able to do anything about it. Has democracy failed? Is it time for a rekindling of the study of comparative politics? It seems the Chinese have a viable solution to the problem of a largely uneducated and passive populace.

> It seems the Chinese have a viable solution

Viable to whom? And who gets to decide? If the Chinese solution is so popular, why don't they hold an election?

There is no legitimate government without democracy, without the people deciding who should govern them and how.

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