I'm curious about the legality of offering these under an open source license, since I'd assume that the original content isn't in the public domain yet? Unless Nintendo's TOS had placed these under that license itself?
Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
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Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#12Why? Communities die, people die, and more importantly, they change. While it used to be that if you wrote something stupid on a wall or carved it into a tree, with a natural expectation that it will get erased or destroyed over time, now even when behemoth social networks shut down, there are apparently enthusiasts which want to conserve every creepy pasta and highdea everywhere. Just because it can be done. At best…
Because we can. Historians love glimpses into the mundane of past societies. For the first time in history it is actually possible to archive these mundane aspects of everyday life like we archive the "important" stuff. Imagine how ecstatic historians we would if we suddenly discovered an archive of even 1% of the smalltalk that went on in bars during the 1800s.
Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. World heritage sites are of archeological interest, whereas marking and preserving only some internet properties perhaps less than a decade old, would only play into the hands of sycophants bent on gaming the UNESCO system for personal gain. The reality is that an UNESCO site is something that warring factions should agree to avoid destroying with bombs and guns, even while they eviscerate each other amid very re…
> You can’t make such a promise that destroying a certain server in a data center may or may not cost the world something valuable. Think on a different level of abstraction. Cyberwar is a thing; cyberweapons are a thing. You could totally have rules about what online services state-sponsored malware shouldn't try to attack. It would make just as much sense to protect Archive.org as it would to protect the Library of…
There’s less skin in the game, when the preserved items are thousand year old buildings in ruins, of intrinsic interest to tourists from all walks of life.
Compare examples of physical architecture to bar fliers advertising happy hour and ladies night. Video game profiles rank closer to bar fliers, even if the architecture in ruins is the bar itself.
Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because we can. Historians love glimpses into the mundane of past societies. For the first time in history it is actually possible to archive these mundane aspects of everyday life like we archive the "important" stuff. Imagine how ecstatic historians we would if we suddenly discovered an archive of even 1% of the smalltalk that went on in bars during the 1800s.
But these people are still alive. It's not a historical dig, it's a creepy collection of one-off thoughts and conversations from living persons.
I have no problem with embargoing these massive archives for to protect the privacy of those involved while still allowing future historians access. For instance, the US census records do not become publically available until 72 years after the census was conducted.
In the case where the data was publicly accessible in the first place (as I believe to be the case here), I do not see any reason (EDIT: except copyright) to do this.
If we are talking about something like Facebook shutting down (or this case if the Miiverse had private conversations), I would be arguing for a similar embargo on private data.
Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#15> The entire Archiverse archives are posted under an open source license, free for mirroring or even personal download if you want to perform a deep, offline analysis. I hope you've got a 17TB hard drive lying around... I'm curious about the legality of offering these under an open source license, since I'd assume that the original content isn't in the public domain yet? Unless Nintendo's TOS had placed these under t…
If facebook shuts down it doesn't mean all multimedia content that was ever hosted there suddenly gets dumped into the public domain. At most you gave the company that run the site an irrevocable, international license to that content (depending on their TOS), it doesn't apply to everyone else and it didn't get put into the public domain or under some other open source license.
Nintendo is sending all users their post history so they can personally archive it if they wish. If anyone else archives it, it's just copyright infringement...
Personally, I respect the work that the Internet Archive and other archivers do, so this is definitely not a hill I'm willing to die on.
Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#16Why? Communities die, people die, and more importantly, they change. While it used to be that if you wrote something stupid on a wall or carved it into a tree, with a natural expectation that it will get erased or destroyed over time, now even when behemoth social networks shut down, there are apparently enthusiasts which want to conserve every creepy pasta and highdea everywhere. Just because it can be done. At best…
One of the most exciting archeological pieces we have from the Roman empire, is graffiti spouting the same mundane things people scrawl on bathroom walls today. > At best, the users should have been given the chance to download whatever they want for private use, and the rest should rightly get obliterated. This is a hard one. The right to be forgotten is probably something the average person should have. But equally…
Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#17Why? Communities die, people die, and more importantly, they change. While it used to be that if you wrote something stupid on a wall or carved it into a tree, with a natural expectation that it will get erased or destroyed over time, now even when behemoth social networks shut down, there are apparently enthusiasts which want to conserve every creepy pasta and highdea everywhere. Just because it can be done. At best…
Re: Miiverse archive recovers 17TB of social mirth after Nintendo’s shutdown
#18Why? Communities die, people die, and more importantly, they change. While it used to be that if you wrote something stupid on a wall or carved it into a tree, with a natural expectation that it will get erased or destroyed over time, now even when behemoth social networks shut down, there are apparently enthusiasts which want to conserve every creepy pasta and highdea everywhere. Just because it can be done. At best…