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Re: FX chief: Even peak TV can be a 'sideshow' to internet

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tritium wrote: post #4
Thriptic wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, and there are reasons for that. Focus groups kill creativity with group-think, and TV reeks of it. Standards and practices and other varieties of self censorship mean TV shall fight forever with one hand tied behind its back. I would actually argue that FX has produced a lot of notable content which has been novel and high quality. Examples would include The Shield, Fargo, Louie, The Americans, Sons of Anarch…

Not all of TV sucks, and FX isn’t terrible. But given the commercials, TV feels like willful brainwashing in practice. Consider the idea of paying for cable, and still watching commercials. It’s sort of like paying for the internet connection and still paying for the content. No thanks.

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Re: FX chief: Even peak TV can be a 'sideshow' to internet

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Post by dadvader »

tritium wrote: post #2

Yeah, and there are reasons for that. Focus groups kill creativity with group-think, and TV reeks of it. Standards and practices and other varieties of self censorship mean TV shall fight forever with one hand tied behind its back. The internet is frequently better than TV, because merit is free to boil to the surface without being stifled. It’s not that the internet is free of bland tripe. But merely that it’s costl…

> And this is because the most captivating things on the internet are authentic in real time, and cannot be “budgeted” in a traditional sense.

I agree with your sentiment but I think there is a move to turn the internet into "TV and movie". There is a big movement by certain groups to push more censorship on the internet.

The raw, real and genuine internet is slowly giving way to corporate censored content.

Re: FX chief: Even peak TV can be a 'sideshow' to internet

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Post by okket »

tritium wrote: post #4
Thriptic wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, and there are reasons for that. Focus groups kill creativity with group-think, and TV reeks of it. Standards and practices and other varieties of self censorship mean TV shall fight forever with one hand tied behind its back. I would actually argue that FX has produced a lot of notable content which has been novel and high quality. Examples would include The Shield, Fargo, Louie, The Americans, Sons of Anarch…

Not all of TV sucks, and FX isn’t terrible. But given the commercials, TV feels like willful brainwashing in practice. Consider the idea of paying for cable, and still watching commercials. It’s sort of like paying for the internet connection and still paying for the content. No thanks.

> It’s sort of like paying for the internet connection and still paying for the content.

Sadly, this looks like it is going to be in future, see Netflix. It will even get worse when more content distribution companies start to argue you should not have to pay for the connection, as long as you only use their service, see "Free Basics".

Re: FX chief: Even peak TV can be a 'sideshow' to internet

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Post by Apocryphon »

Thriptic wrote: post #3
tritium wrote: post #2

Yeah, and there are reasons for that. Focus groups kill creativity with group-think, and TV reeks of it. Standards and practices and other varieties of self censorship mean TV shall fight forever with one hand tied behind its back. The internet is frequently better than TV, because merit is free to boil to the surface without being stifled. It’s not that the internet is free of bland tripe. But merely that it’s costl…

> Yeah, and there are reasons for that. Focus groups kill creativity with group-think, and TV reeks of it. Standards and practices and other varieties of self censorship mean TV shall fight forever with one hand tied behind its back. I would actually argue that FX has produced a lot of notable content which has been novel and high quality. Examples would include The Shield, Fargo, Louie, The Americans, Sons of Anarch…

Don't forget It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Archer, or The League.

Re: FX chief: Even peak TV can be a 'sideshow' to internet

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Post by eveningcoffee »

dadvader wrote: post #12
tritium wrote: post #2

Yeah, and there are reasons for that. Focus groups kill creativity with group-think, and TV reeks of it. Standards and practices and other varieties of self censorship mean TV shall fight forever with one hand tied behind its back. The internet is frequently better than TV, because merit is free to boil to the surface without being stifled. It’s not that the internet is free of bland tripe. But merely that it’s costl…

> And this is because the most captivating things on the internet are authentic in real time, and cannot be “budgeted” in a traditional sense. I agree with your sentiment but I think there is a move to turn the internet into "TV and movie". There is a big movement by certain groups to push more censorship on the internet. The raw, real and genuine internet is slowly giving way to corporate censored content.

There is another push that I call televication of the Internet - forced video ads.

The main issue with this is that it dictates the flow similarly as the TV does - you are forcefully interrupted.

Re: FX chief: Even peak TV can be a 'sideshow' to internet

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Post by tritium »

eveningcoffee wrote: post #15
dadvader wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And this is because the most captivating things on the internet are authentic in real time, and cannot be “budgeted” in a traditional sense. I agree with your sentiment but I think there is a move to turn the internet into "TV and movie". There is a big movement by certain groups to push more censorship on the internet. The raw, real and genuine internet is slowly giving way to corporate censored content.

There is another push that I call televication of the Internet - forced video ads. The main issue with this is that it dictates the flow similarly as the TV does - you are forcefully interrupted.

Oh, that’s not the only issue at all.

It also completely eradicates your data allocation on a capped/throttled mobile connection, since high quality video is capable of sucking down 25GB in as little as 2 hours. The worst case scenario being that 25GB is the standard capacity of an HD blu-ray disk. Maybe at lower NTSC quality, some video ads only eat up the amount a DVD consumes, clocking in at ~2GB per one hour.

Put another way, if you completely buffer the same 30 second full motion video ad, 240 times, that advertisement has completely abused the data cap for your mobile plan.

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