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Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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Nothing like a good mental colonic with a brutal dissolution of ego to increase that amygdala response, right?

This is a reddit quality comment. On what basis do you justify classifying the treatment as brutal? Or that the dose was high enough that the test subjects underwent ego death? Were you just exaggerating for comic effect and didn't really have anything to add?

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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I can vouch for the antidepressant properties of psilocybin, as well as it's nearly miraculous efficacy at stopping cluster headaches. If any of you are unaware of cluster headaches, they are also called suicide headaches, because the pain is so great that many people just kill themselves. The pain level has few peers, it's been compared to amputation without anaesthetic. For me, the bulk of the sensation is of one o…

You can naturally find them in nearly any climate. Maybe worth a try

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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I can vouch for the antidepressant properties of psilocybin, as well as it's nearly miraculous efficacy at stopping cluster headaches. If any of you are unaware of cluster headaches, they are also called suicide headaches, because the pain is so great that many people just kill themselves. The pain level has few peers, it's been compared to amputation without anaesthetic. For me, the bulk of the sensation is of one o…

After the first time I took LSD, I, too, noticed an elevated mood for several weeks afterwards.

I was not depressed at the time - I might have been a little down - but my mood was better - things that used to annoy me now annoyed me much less, while things that used to make me happy made me even happier.

Since LSD and Psilocybin are so similar in their effects, I would not be surprised if the mechanism turns out to be the same.

Now that I think if of it, I remember a mushroom experience when I was maybe 19 or 20 years old, and, at the time, quite unhappy about my life, quite likely even depressed. I did mushrooms with a friend whose parents were on vacation. The trip itself was very depressing. But when I woke up the next morning, I was happier than I had been in months, and that, too, lasted several weeks.

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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I can vouch for the antidepressant properties of psilocybin, as well as it's nearly miraculous efficacy at stopping cluster headaches. If any of you are unaware of cluster headaches, they are also called suicide headaches, because the pain is so great that many people just kill themselves. The pain level has few peers, it's been compared to amputation without anaesthetic. For me, the bulk of the sensation is of one o…

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Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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post #60

I can vouch for the antidepressant properties of psilocybin, as well as it's nearly miraculous efficacy at stopping cluster headaches. If any of you are unaware of cluster headaches, they are also called suicide headaches, because the pain is so great that many people just kill themselves. The pain level has few peers, it's been compared to amputation without anaesthetic. For me, the bulk of the sensation is of one o…

> it's nearly miraculous efficacy at stopping cluster headaches.

Relevant talk from Horizons:

https://vimeo.com/10918637

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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post #52

Nothing like a good mental colonic with a brutal dissolution of ego to increase that amygdala response, right?

This is a reddit quality comment. On what basis do you justify classifying the treatment as brutal? Or that the dose was high enough that the test subjects underwent ego death? Were you just exaggerating for comic effect and didn't really have anything to add?

have you done them? i would say its a pretty accurate description of my experience. every time ive done them, ive found aspects extremely uncomfortable, but by the end i almost feel a sense of accomplishment. i know people read comments like this and imagine an idiot who is easily swayed by bullshit, so ill offer what i thought of as the most tangible interesting things that comes from taking mushrooms: many things that happen automatically in your brain seem to stop when you take mushrooms. for instance, it was no longer obvious to me what time of day it was, or what day of the week. it was very interesting to experience this, because it had never been something id been without, and it had never even occurred to me as a thing that could not be obvious. so seeing that it was a process like anything else is very eye opening.

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To some degree, it absolutely is. At the very least, your reality needs to shift. That's the whole idea of healing depression... there are things in your reality that need shifting. I'm also sure that psilocybin isn't the only molecule involved. And I'm also sure that if someone isn't ready to take active ownership of their mental health into taking psilocybin could be just as moot as any other substance. Healing is…

> To some degree, it absolutely is. At the very least, your reality needs to shift. That's the whole idea of healing depression Hold on now, you're deciding what the mechanism of action is without merit. Consider some of the studies being done for depression with Ketamine. In those studies, they're finding that the psychoactive component isn't the one causing the improvement- just a byproduct of it created during met…

For psilocybin it looks like the more powerful experience means more pronounced and longer lasting therapeutic effect: "Reductions in depressive symptoms at 5 weeks were predicted by the quality of the acute psychedelic experience." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29119217

And there are more and more studies about the mechanism of psychedelics such ad psilocybin and LSD coming out, essentially telling the same story.

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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Joins other studies from NYU investigating psilocybin mitigation of anxiety in advanced stage cancer patients. As well as a comprehensive survey by psychiatrists at Johns Hopkins showing 84% of those who tripped describing the experience as somewhat beneficial: Survey study of challenging experiences after ingesting psilocybin mushrooms http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/026988111666263... As federal dollar…

Are there any studies on psilocybin mushrooms on schizophrenia-spectrum people?

No and most likely there won't be. It is still thought that psychedelics can trigger or worsen schizophrenia in those people - it is certainly possible, though nobody knows - and all studies will try to play it on the safe side and exclude them. Remember these are still Schedule 1 illegal drugs, so anyone trying to get them rescheduled wants to avoid controversy.

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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This is all the more important that there are few medical options for depression: SSRIs are the commonly used ones.

SSRIs are used to treat a different class of depression.

Actually no, the inclusion criteria for this study were major (unipolar) depression and no improvement despite two courses of antidepressants (6 weeks minimum each), I think this is exactly what SSRI are used for.

Re: Increased amygdala responses after psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression

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Anecdotally, one-time use of LSD(which acts similarly to psilocybin, primarily through 5-ht2a agonism) set me on a path to self improvement. I had depression for years during my puberty, teens, and early adulthood. I contemplated suicide regularly and had a pessimistic outlook on life. I dropped out of college in my first semester despite taking and passing multiple AP classes in high school because I didn't see the…

Also anecdotally, I took a fairly large amount of magic mushrooms once, and it was an awful episode that left me with anxiety attacks for many months afterwards. I saw no life improvement from this experience, and regret having ever dabbled recreationally.

i think the key take away in your story is to not take a 'fairly large amount' ... (without having experience, etc.)!
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