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I'll play devil's advocate , since there's more truth to Tesla's words than you're giving him credit for. The comforts of modern society allow the proliferation of dysgenic traits. The system rewards reckless breeding of people who don't have the means to support children. Genetic selection happens whether we talk about it or not. We meddled with better pets, livestock and crops. Why not give improved humans a try? Y…
Ill respond by simply pointing out that eugenics doesn’t work to remove “dysgenic” traits Nazi Germany eliminated 70-100% of their schizophrenics and just a generation or two later Germany has levels of schizophrenic patients same as everyone else. It even had higher than normal levels after the eradication. Killing off people with shitty genetic traits simply doesn’t work to reduce it in your population. https://aca…
The Extraordinary Life of Nikola Tesla
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#92My tinfoil hat tells me that either neither Tesla nor Einstein were humans, OR both were in some sort of communication with aliens. I know on its face it sounds like horseshit... but with over 100 billion people ever lived on earth... how come we have so few geniuses that truly push the whole human kind forward 10x faster than all people combined thru a previous ten centuries? Even more - if we assume its just a coin…
Pushing society forward tends to require society's help. And a big issue is we've become far less tolerant and more cynical of change. We certainly consider ourselves tolerant but that's mostly on a small subset of all issues - primarily just social stuff like sexuality. By contrast imagine we did not have electric poles up today and somebody suggested we string up these poles all around the country. And they also suggested we wire them up with enough juice flowing through them to kill anything that happened to touch them and something else at the same time - and that these wires could also easily start fires and more. Society wouldn't even consider it - preposterous, unsafe, won't anybody think of the children, blah blah blah. A solar farm frying some birds gets headlines today. I mean... really? Society used to be more tolerant to risk, challenge, and capable of dealing with uncertainty. That opens up the doors of possibility.
Another big change is that I think many peoples' goals in life have changed from moving society forward, to just earning a lot of money. Revolutionary invention is not really the best way to make lots of money in society. In the pure sciences, like physics, it's positively fruitless. Even in the more monetizable fields, it's extremely high risk and the rewards are are wildly variable. 20 years from now Elon Musk could easily be the richest person in history, but he could also just as easily be bankrupt or approaching it. Getting back to the first point, what happens when the first person dies on a SpaceX mission? What if the two people SpaceX plans to send around the moon end up dying catastrophically? It really shouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but society would flip a lid, government would try to regulate, and it would be a catastrophe far greater than the loss of life. Dangerous calculus if your life's purpose is money.
Ultimately we have a conservative society that's risk averse and driven by money more than by invention. It's not a good recipe for cooking up revolutionary change.
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#93My tinfoil hat tells me that either neither Tesla nor Einstein were humans, OR both were in some sort of communication with aliens. I know on its face it sounds like horseshit... but with over 100 billion people ever lived on earth... how come we have so few geniuses that truly push the whole human kind forward 10x faster than all people combined thru a previous ten centuries? Even more - if we assume its just a coin…
There are probably many geniouses that came and went through the ages, the problem is that of “financial stability / partnerships”. If I’m too busy making Widgets for a company in order to feed my family, I dont have any energy left to do Creative stuff. Isaac Newton was wealthy so could devote time to pursue the sciences, the rest of us are preparing TPG reports for the bean counters. The person who can cure cancer…
His young life is like something out of Jerry Springer.
Though I think it offers a good moral. Life is what you make of it. This is far more true today than during Newton's life. The big difference is that somehow we, collectively, seem to have lost our willingness to do what it takes to leave us in the sort of position your envision Newton as somehow having been warped into. Remember his 'magnum opus' would not come until he was 43 years old in 1685 - most of his life prior spent in complete disregard.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Isaac_Newton
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Edison was an asshole - but he was a brilliant polymath asshole - I can draw a line, an almost direct line between the methods of Steve Jobs and Thomas Edison. Edison can be an asshole, without denigrating any of his brilliance, or suppressing any of Teslas. It's interesting though - Edison was often the disruptor of industries - but he was not the man who turned Electrical Power, the Phonograph, or the Motion Pictur…
Did you meet him? How would you know he was an ahole? Just asking, as I see this far too much. Is Elon an ahole? Is Gates an ahole?
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Did you meet him? How would you know he was an ahole? Just asking, as I see this far too much. Is Elon an ahole? Is Gates an ahole?
It's usually a mistake to judge people from another time using modern sensibilities. It's like thinking people from the 1800's were all grim because they look grim in photographs. But that was just an artifact of them having to hold still for the long exposure times. I bet those people would think people of our time are horribly ill-mannered and rude.
Bear in mind, you can be an asshole and be an okay person - its not a value judgement, its a statement of fact.
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Edison was an asshole - but he was a brilliant polymath asshole - I can draw a line, an almost direct line between the methods of Steve Jobs and Thomas Edison. Edison can be an asshole, without denigrating any of his brilliance, or suppressing any of Teslas. It's interesting though - Edison was often the disruptor of industries - but he was not the man who turned Electrical Power, the Phonograph, or the Motion Pictur…
The historical record indicates Edison treated people dramatically better than Jobs did. The factual record to support that is overwhelming and covered in about a dozen books. Read about the enjoyment his fellow inventors had in working with him in the early busy days. Read about the praise he received from his fellow workers before he became famous. He was not known as an asshole. The only thing Edison appears to ha…
He was a somewhat distant father, until his children were old enough to join him in the business - he was a good man - but generally contemptuous with convention, and conventional thinking (often seen in people regarded as 'visionaries') - in business dealings, he certainly was an asshole, but thats not unheard of in his time.
Tesla by modern standards was.. somewhat crazy - out of the two I consider Edison to have a greater vision, and to be a far more transformative figure - and honestly someone who left a larger lasting impact on the world.
I've been to Edisons home, and his final lab in West Orange NJ - I think very very highly of the man - but I also think he was an asshole.
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I'll play devil's advocate , since there's more truth to Tesla's words than you're giving him credit for. The comforts of modern society allow the proliferation of dysgenic traits. The system rewards reckless breeding of people who don't have the means to support children. Genetic selection happens whether we talk about it or not. We meddled with better pets, livestock and crops. Why not give improved humans a try? Y…
Ill respond by simply pointing out that eugenics doesn’t work to remove “dysgenic” traits Nazi Germany eliminated 70-100% of their schizophrenics and just a generation or two later Germany has levels of schizophrenic patients same as everyone else. It even had higher than normal levels after the eradication. Killing off people with shitty genetic traits simply doesn’t work to reduce it in your population. https://aca…
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How would you respond if I electrocuted you, saying my intention was to save you from pain?
I would be fuming if somebody electrocute me, that's for sure; but much better than if they kill me with a rusty axe. That would be very impolite and unforgeivable.
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It's also popular to say Edison did not invent the light bulb. It is correct that he was not the first to invent a glowing wire. Edison's key innovation was the thin, high resistance filament which used high voltage and low current. That design was said to be impossible by all the experts of the time, but it is what made the light bulb practical and useful. Edison's light bulb was attacked on all fronts in patent cou…
You're forgetting Joseph Swan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Swan#Electric_light
"Swan's carbon rod lamp and carbon filament lamp, while functional, were still relatively impractical due to low resistance (needing very expensive thick copper wiring) and short running life."
It also mentions the high current.
As I remarked, Edison's breakthrough was the thin-filament high voltage, low current lamp, which made it practical.