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Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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"the trickle-down effect to cases like those of Garrison Keillor, Jonathan Schwartz, Ryan Lizza and Al Franken, in which the accusations are scattered, anonymous or, as far as the public knows, very vague and unspecific, has been troubling."

This is a hot take, especially when Al Franken was literally photographed with his hands on a woman's chest. Sexual assault is bad, using your position to enable that should get you fired. Yes even if you are a democrat.

"What about the women who are the predators?" the author claims, though the #metoo was fundamentally about sexual assault, not specifically men assaulting women. I mean literally one of the heinous examples she provided was a man assaulting a man. This article is concerning, and I'm curious what their ulterior motive is.

Just to announce my bias, I'm a leftist, and I have a suspicion this is a democrat trying to gloss over the unacceptable behavior of Al Franken, who for the record I personally supported until I learned about the sexual assault.

Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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People not on the hard left have been saying this exact thing for years. I guess now that people like Franken are going down due to outrage, the NYT sees value in due process and treating women as responsible adults.

I don’t mean for that statement to be flame-bait, I think it’s the unvarnished truth and I’d be happy to hear opposing views.

Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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post #3

"the trickle-down effect to cases like those of Garrison Keillor, Jonathan Schwartz, Ryan Lizza and Al Franken, in which the accusations are scattered, anonymous or, as far as the public knows, very vague and unspecific, has been troubling." This is a hot take, especially when Al Franken was literally photographed with his hands on a woman's chest. Sexual assault is bad, using your position to enable that should get…

> Al Franken was literally photographed with his hands on a woman's chest.

No, he wasn't.

Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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post #3

"the trickle-down effect to cases like those of Garrison Keillor, Jonathan Schwartz, Ryan Lizza and Al Franken, in which the accusations are scattered, anonymous or, as far as the public knows, very vague and unspecific, has been troubling." This is a hot take, especially when Al Franken was literally photographed with his hands on a woman's chest. Sexual assault is bad, using your position to enable that should get…

He had his hands hovering over a woman's chest, not touching it.

Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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post #2

This piece is congruent with Megan McArdle's "Consider the consequences of #BelieveAllWomen: It won't turn out well for women." https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-15/consider-...

> It won't turn out well for women

All these shows won't turn out well for anyone under senatorial property qualifications (SPQR style, I mean).

Alas.

Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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post #3

"the trickle-down effect to cases like those of Garrison Keillor, Jonathan Schwartz, Ryan Lizza and Al Franken, in which the accusations are scattered, anonymous or, as far as the public knows, very vague and unspecific, has been troubling." This is a hot take, especially when Al Franken was literally photographed with his hands on a woman's chest. Sexual assault is bad, using your position to enable that should get…

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Re: Publicly, We Say #MeToo. Privately, We Have Misgivings

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post #3

"the trickle-down effect to cases like those of Garrison Keillor, Jonathan Schwartz, Ryan Lizza and Al Franken, in which the accusations are scattered, anonymous or, as far as the public knows, very vague and unspecific, has been troubling." This is a hot take, especially when Al Franken was literally photographed with his hands on a woman's chest. Sexual assault is bad, using your position to enable that should get…

> "What about the women who are the predators?" the author claims, though the #metoo was fundamentally about sexual assault, not specifically men assaulting women.

It's strange that amidst all the coverage, Corey Feldman's bravery has gone largely ignored.

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