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Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

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Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about: -art (cave paintings, etc) -music it's striking to see 6-12 month old infants bopping up and down to music. They're not taught to do this and I've never heard of animals responding to music...

There's loads of videos of various parrots bopping and dancing to music. Can't tell if it's learned behavior, but they do it.

Does it even matter? It's a learned behavior in humans too. Nurture plays a far bigger role in what we do than people give it credit for.

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

#53
post #7

So we're not the only: - tool-using animal - fire-using animal - language-using animal - animal which domesticates other animals - animal which builds complex structures Aha! I know! We're the only animal which continually comes up with reasons why we're special.

You can never convince an animal to give it's food in promise of a place in heaven or to die for it's country. That's something only humans are capable of. Beat that!

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

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post #7

So we're not the only: - tool-using animal - fire-using animal - language-using animal - animal which domesticates other animals - animal which builds complex structures Aha! I know! We're the only animal which continually comes up with reasons why we're special.

We are the only mammal with consciousness, which leads to knowledge of the future and the discerning of good and evil.

Despite the fact that we still don’t understand the least about how consciousness arises in our brain, we are nonetheless the only animal that shows this.

Even in cases like monkeys recognizing themselves una mirror, no animal seem to go past that and be aware of the future like we do.

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

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post #7

So we're not the only: - tool-using animal - fire-using animal - language-using animal - animal which domesticates other animals - animal which builds complex structures Aha! I know! We're the only animal which continually comes up with reasons why we're special.

You can never convince an animal to give it's food in promise of a place in heaven or to die for it's country. That's something only humans are capable of. Beat that!

Besides the snark, you are right. No other animal understands the concept of sacrificing something today to get something better in the future.

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

#56
post #7

So we're not the only: - tool-using animal - fire-using animal - language-using animal - animal which domesticates other animals - animal which builds complex structures Aha! I know! We're the only animal which continually comes up with reasons why we're special.

We are the only mammal with consciousness, which leads to knowledge of the future and the discerning of good and evil. Despite the fact that we still don’t understand the least about how consciousness arises in our brain, we are nonetheless the only animal that shows this. Even in cases like monkeys recognizing themselves una mirror, no animal seem to go past that and be aware of the future like we do.

> We are the only mammal with consciousness

Uh huh.

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

#57
post #5

This is super cool, if a bit scary. Man Australia has it all though, 8/10 of the deadliest spiders, half the deadliest snakes, crocodiles, rockfish, and now firebirds. Inhabiting Australia is a testament to man's arrogance.

As a native-born Australian, your last sentence really resonates with me. I was lucky to have been born there, and raised a bit, but when I was old enough to have a religious-like experience out there in the north-western deserts, I realised I couldn't ever feel comfortable for as long as I, a privileged white boy, lived on the Australian continent.

So, I left. 30 years later, I'm taking my kids back for a bit of tourism.

And for sure, we'll be keeping an eye out, back up on those long stretches, for the odd kite or two .. not that there's much to burn where we're going.

Australia is a huge, and most awesome place in the world. It's a pity what its current humans are doing with it.

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

#59
post #7

So we're not the only: - tool-using animal - fire-using animal - language-using animal - animal which domesticates other animals - animal which builds complex structures Aha! I know! We're the only animal which continually comes up with reasons why we're special.

We are the only mammal with consciousness, which leads to knowledge of the future and the discerning of good and evil. Despite the fact that we still don’t understand the least about how consciousness arises in our brain, we are nonetheless the only animal that shows this. Even in cases like monkeys recognizing themselves una mirror, no animal seem to go past that and be aware of the future like we do.

Consciousness is the central concept of Hinduism and has been researched & discussed for at least 5000 years (conservative estimate). "Sat-chid-ananda" is the description of this consciousness which is always awake and it is the same as within humans as it is with the consciousness of the universe - according to the Vedas.

Re: Intentional Fire-Spreading by “Firehawk” Raptors in Northern Australia

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can never convince an animal to give it's food in promise of a place in heaven or to die for it's country. That's something only humans are capable of. Beat that!

Besides the snark, you are right. No other animal understands the concept of sacrificing something today to get something better in the future.

I didn't mean animals don't do sacrifices. I meant they don't do sacrifices for imaginary things.
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