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Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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The main reason for putting touch screens on laptops is that Windows 8 - 10 have an interface that is designed to be tablet friendly, at the expense of being desktop friendly. So it is easier to do an occasional touch gesture to do certain things. Also, things like kinetic scrolling is easier with touch. With a mouse, you have to click the button, move the mouse, then unclick while the mouse is sill moving. Much easi…

But I thought XPS developer edition was supposed to be aimed at Linux users, specifically Ubuntu. I use i3, which would (edit:) not benefit from the touch screen from the get-go. Maybe I could configure it to react to touch events in a cool manner, like moving windowed stuff around with touch. Resizing with two fingers. That might actually be pretty cool

I have an older Dell laptop with a 4K touch screen running Fedora 27. The touch screen works very well with Gnome and Chrome. So Linux users can get the same benefit that Windows users get.

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Did DELL finally put some resources into their Linux software team? I bought a 2015 XPS 13 Developer edition and had a very bad experience with the software. The setup program crashed. And the drivers were bad: wifi slow, suspend/resume sometimes crashed, touchpad would register clicks while I typed, video playback randomly stopped working. I spent about 8 hours researching and finally got it usable. The remaining issues went away gradually over 6 months. After that experience, I believe that DELL doesn't care enough about making a great product to hire good software people, or is incapable of selecting good software people, or doesn't allocate enough money to hire enough software people.

Another problem is that all of the CPUs are 15W TDP. That means they have 1/3 the CPU power of a desktop. They are unsuitable for running heavy VM-based integration tests, video editing, and other things I want to do with my primary computer.

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Dan, I apologize for your experience. If you ever run into something like this again, besides contacting support directly, you can ping @dellcarespro on twitter and, if its related to the developer edition or project Sputnik you can loop me in @barton808. thanks!

I'm not a fan of the 13" form factor to shipping a developer edition XPS 15 (with 32GB) would be awesome FYI!

I would also love to replace my 15" laptop that has 32 GB of RAM (a Eurocom M5 Pro).

Finding a suitable vendor with nice specifications has been hard work...

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Dan, I apologize for your experience. If you ever run into something like this again, besides contacting support directly, you can ping @dellcarespro on twitter and, if its related to the developer edition or project Sputnik you can loop me in @barton808. thanks!

I'll say that I wanted to like Dell because they seemed to be focused on delivering quality Linux laptops. However, I will never buy a Dell again. The support is absolutely abysmal. I had a 5510 that I ended up selling for a significant loss about 6 months after buying it because Dell kept "fixing" what I had, sending me back the wrong machine, etc. Total waste of time and money. Buyer beware on quality and support -…

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Lenovo ThinkPad support absolutely blows, too. I had next biz day support and a battery in my T460s died. It took two weeks of calls and emails and tweeting to find out that the replacement battery was backordered. Weeks later, I got a replacement laptop, a P50 that I had to pay extra for. Fuck Lenovo support.

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Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

There's Tuxedo in Europe, apparently they have similar offerings as System76.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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post #289

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I'm not a fan of the 13" form factor to shipping a developer edition XPS 15 (with 32GB) would be awesome FYI!

I would also love to replace my 15" laptop that has 32 GB of RAM (a Eurocom M5 Pro). Finding a suitable vendor with nice specifications has been hard work...

I just bought the version with least RAM and bought 32GB RipJaws from Amazon. It only took like 10 minutes to exchange it and I'm super happy with it.

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I've had so many problems with my XPS 13 that I bought in 2016 that I will never buy another one. Killer WiFi card was utter crap, laptop has issues going to sleep and waking up when closing the lid (sometimes it would hang on the the dell screen when trying to wake up and never recover), etc. Purely anecdotal, but a hard pass for me. Lenovo is my new laptop brand of choice.

Which lenovo product would you recommend for a linux laptop?

Ubuntu on Thinkpad T series works well, e.g.

https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201702-25371/

They are rugged and have a good keyboard. You can find a brand new at 70% of a Dell XPS price (at Lenovo's outlet / eBay / BHPhotovideo).

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Re: touch. I just bought an XPS15 with 16GB for 1900AUD. It has touch, which I don't use. The viewing angle is wonderful, basically 360 degrees with no degredation and in this respect is no different to my 2013 Macbook Pro. AFAIK from reading other people's setups (see external resources at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Dell_XPS_15_9560 ) you can disable touch to save power. Re: cost. Macbook Pro in similar power rang…

Thanks for the advice, glad to hear dissent about the viewing angle (I've only seen the touchscreen in person once, and maybe the lighting was just bad in that instance). But the cost is still a sticking point, because for me this isn't competing with a Macbook Pro; it's competing with the older refurbished laptop from an arbitrary manufacturer that I got for $0 from a friend and that I currently use solely for Linux…

There is no reason to be poor with your knowledge. Do yourself a favour and invest in good hardware, it's a matter of ergonomics, focus, health and motivation not simply economics. Usually you can get a tax writeoff and it signals to clients you invest in your own tools and professional development as well.

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I bought a Dell XPS 9550 with terrible coil whine from the Microsoft Store about two years ago. Thinking I was just unlucky, I did an exchange (MS Store) to a different unit. This one had no coil whine, but would not wake up from sleep about half the time. If you think Apple has fallen in terms of quality, you have no idea how low they would have to fall to match Dell's.

> If you think Apple has fallen in terms of quality I don't. I've found Apple (hardware) to be reliable and long-lasting. It's the developer-hostile designs where I think they've gone crazy.

I don't find Apple designs hostile at all for Objective-C and Swift developers, their main developer customer base.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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I'm surprised that only the touchscreen editions are UHD. I'd have guessed developers would prefer UHD, but no touch. Am I really missing something? Do people really prefer touch (or, FHD)?.

The other horrible part of the touch screen is that it is super glossy. To get 4k I had to buy a touch screen and put a matte film on it.
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