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U.S. To End Policy That Let Legal Pot Flourish

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Re: U.S. To End Policy That Let Legal Pot Flourish

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Post by mcny »

khuey wrote: post #105
mcny wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why just marijuana? Why not every drug? In fact, why is possession of anything a crime? We already have laws about improper storage of hazardous materials. Possession of anything should be legal. Now distribution and sale is a trickier subject but pretty easy as well. As long as you don't misrepresent what you're selling, it should be legal as well. If we are for a small government, we have to walk the walk.

Should possession of 100 lbs of weapons grade uranium be a crime?

> Should possession of 100 lbs of weapons grade uranium be a crime?

Not that I know much about these things but from a distance I don't think possession should be a crime even in this case. Of course, you need to follow proper procedure to store it.

I am more concerned with where they obtained the said material, who supplied it to them, who produced it and so on.

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Post by didgeoridoo »

drvdevd wrote: post #101
saas_co_de wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the contrary. I am glad he is doing this. It is a huge tactical blunder that will force the states' rights issue into court and either result in a victory for the states or massive public discontent about federal overthrow of popular state policies. Either way the federal government is going to see their influence eroded here.

I agree. The cole memo was a real half-assed political approach in the first place, perhaps necessary at the time. This is a move coming at a time when this now state legal industry is gaining widespread popularity and acceptance and most importantly income. It’s time to challenge the feds on the outdated CSA classification of marijuana as schedule one in general, in addition to forcing another states rights debate.…

Reinterpreting “interstate commerce” to mean “commerce that actually involves money, goods, or services crossing state lines” would be a huge deal. It would essentially overturn Wickard v Filburn and put the brakes on a huge number of federal laws that exist to compel the states to do things. It seems very, very unlikely that the SC would make such a move, but it would be spectacularly welcome for us strict-constructionists.

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Post by dang »

grasshopperpurp wrote: post #28
danschumann wrote: post #8

I think weed should be legal. I also think Sessions should enforce every law, lest he pick and choose what is illegal and what is not, thus becoming the most powerful law-maker ( or unmaker ) in the land. Passing a law is the act of the legislative, and repealing a law is too. If he does not enforce all the laws, he basically is seizing the power of congress and repealing those laws, for his term. Imagine Sessions ch…

You say this as if Sessions is a good-faith actor, when clearly he is not.

This comment crosses over the line where the thread becomes generically political. We need to resist that here, because there's nothing of value in generically political subthreads—they're all the same. People who want to fight the same fights over and over—and there are valid reasons to want that, obviously—need to do so elsewhere.

Of course the original topic is highly politicized, but at least it was an alloy, not the pure thing, and it's important to preserve that property in the comments.

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Post by Clubber »

watwut wrote: post #170
Clubber wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well yes, what Sessions was accused of doing is systemic racism, which IMO is much worse than idiots throwing around pejoratives. Granted, the systemic racism is a lot better overall than it was. I mean lynching was legal, rape was legal, assault was legal and fighting back got your mobbed or worse. Racism is the belief that a group of people are inferior to another group of people based solely on what they look like…

You mean this one? https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-civil-war-and-recons...

Yes. It's very good. I listened to it for the reconstruction part, but ended up listening to the whole thing.

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Post by Clubber »

brightball wrote: post #167
Clubber wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was, but the South had seceded, so they considered themselves a separate country with a separate (albeit hastily constructed) government, so executive orders don't apply to other countries. The legality of secession wasn't even decided until after the war, so it was a bunch of murky legal territory.

Was it ever decided?

Yes, sort of. After the end of the war, it was ruled unconstitutional (by SCOTUS), but only applied to 1869 onward. (perhaps meaning it was legal in 1861). The actual ruling is still being debated.

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/2056/was-the-sec...

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Post by jdironman »

btbuildem wrote: post #39
bediger4000 wrote: post #30

Why? What harm can the Feds point to, with respect to legal marijuana? It's been mostly good in Colorado. Sales tax on marijuana has offset some budget problems citizens of Colorado inflicted on themselves (TABOR). Apparently, crime in Colorado isn't uniformly rising: most categories of crime are less common since legalization, a few have risen a bit. This is in line with a secular drop in crime in all of th USA, how…

It harms the pharmaceutical industry, the private prisons and police budgets, to name a few examples.

So, all their favorites.

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Post by mnm1 »

The states that have legalized it should do everything in their power to not provide any assistance to the federal government in this or any other investigations till the policy is improved, just like sanctuary cities are doing. The states have a lot of legal options on how to handle this. We'll see if they do the right thing or if they bend over backwards for a piece of shit racist AG who has already allegedly (my ass) perjured himself.

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Post by dang »

swarnie_ wrote: post #96
Havoc wrote: post #9

This guy is messing with my gains. Can't he go rant about tax deductions and too much regulation like a normal republican?

Budz off 37% already today. Hope sessions and his boyfriend had short positions on this dumpster fire

Please don't post like this here.

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Post by dang »

shams93 wrote: post #126

If you're trying to destroy the country on behalf of Putin forcing millions of middle aged chronic pain patients off cannabis onto opiates and inevitably heroin and fentynal is an efficient way to murder millions of people without firing a single shot.

Please don't post inflammatory rants here. Any point worth making can be made civilly and substantively.

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