Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by Sami_Lehtinen » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 1:16 PM UTC

Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs
en.zhaoxin.com

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

#2

Post by sanxiyn » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:37 PM UTC

This is VIA Technologies. Details here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/via-chinese-x86-soc-2019,36...

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

#3

Post by 0xcde4c3db » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:42 PM UTC

The page says "Zhaoxin's home-grown x86 CPU is completely designed from the ground up within China", but other sources suggest that their cores are derived from Centaur microarchitecture. Anyone know what the truth is on this?

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by gaius » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:43 PM UTC

sanxiyn wrote: post #2

This is VIA Technologies. Details here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/via-chinese-x86-soc-2019,36...

but its chips don’t make it out of the country because they’re largely used in products built for the Chinese government.

Very wise of them. Right now the UK needs to make a serious push to make ARM our primary choice, and fabbed here too. This is as strategic as nukes.

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by dogma1138 » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:45 PM UTC

gaius wrote: post #4

sanxiyn wrote: post #2

This is VIA Technologies. Details here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/via-chinese-x86-soc-2019,36...

but its chips don’t make it out of the country because they’re largely used in products built for the Chinese government. Very wise of them. Right now the UK needs to make a serious push to make ARM our primary choice, and fabbed here too. This is as strategic as nukes.

It's too late for that ARM is no longer a UK company.

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by sanxiyn » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:50 PM UTC

gaius wrote: post #4

sanxiyn wrote: post #2

This is VIA Technologies. Details here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/via-chinese-x86-soc-2019,36...

but its chips don’t make it out of the country because they’re largely used in products built for the Chinese government. Very wise of them. Right now the UK needs to make a serious push to make ARM our primary choice, and fabbed here too. This is as strategic as nukes.

You mean ARM Holdings plc, a wholly owned subsidary of SoftBank Group Corp.?

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by Nokinside » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:53 PM UTC

sanxiyn wrote: post #2

This is VIA Technologies. Details here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/via-chinese-x86-soc-2019,36...

It's a joint venture with municipal government of Shanghai as the article says.

Zhaoxin Semiconductor is Chinese government funded and part of the National Integrated Circuit Industry Development Program.

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by trollian » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:57 PM UTC

0xcde4c3db wrote: post #3

The page says "Zhaoxin's home-grown x86 CPU is completely designed from the ground up within China", but other sources suggest that their cores are derived from Centaur microarchitecture. Anyone know what the truth is on this?

According to the official One China Policy the island of Taiwan is a province of China. So yeah, maybe it all depends what your definition of "China" is...

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by sanxiyn » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:58 PM UTC

0xcde4c3db wrote: post #3

The page says "Zhaoxin's home-grown x86 CPU is completely designed from the ground up within China", but other sources suggest that their cores are derived from Centaur microarchitecture. Anyone know what the truth is on this?

VIA bought Centaur, so you can argue that, tenuously. VIA is a Taiwanese company. Some people insist that being Taiwanese is being Chinese.

Re: Zhaoxin's x86 CPUs

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Post by baybal2 » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:59 PM UTC

0xcde4c3db wrote: post #3

The page says "Zhaoxin's home-grown x86 CPU is completely designed from the ground up within China", but other sources suggest that their cores are derived from Centaur microarchitecture. Anyone know what the truth is on this?

>"Zhaoxin's home-grown x86 CPU is completely designed from the ground up within China"

Yes, just not that China, another one