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Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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>What sites are unusable? Youtube.

I paid for Red a long time ago just to get rid of the ads. I forget they even have ads. Particularly nice for the app.

Same, but with uBlock instead. I'm shocked every time by how youtube actually looks like when I see someone else using it.

Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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> If you don’t consent why view their content? Ever since newspapers, the social contract has been that they serve content and I become a reader they can sell advertising space for me to look at. They can't suddenly change that contract and expect everyone to automatically agree.

In what way are they changing it? Surely by using ad blockers it is us that are changing the contract, by removing the ability for the publisher to show us ads.

They are changing it by not only selling my eyeballs, but selling everything they can learn about me by tracking me all over the internet. Ad blocking is a change, but it is a reaction to their change (adding tracking to ads).

Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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I don't know why you call it negative, I call it realistic. It's like putting all _caught_ pedofiles in a jail, and then saying children can roam the streets free and in safety...

You're arguing against yourself. They do put all caught pedophiles in jail, and it's extremely safe for children to roam the streets from a pedophile point of view (but very risky from a car accident point of view).

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Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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Some non-legacy news sites do make ads first-party content, i.e. native advertising or sponsored content. BuzzFeed is probably the most prolific at it [0], with a great tech team and focus, but even BuzzFeed is floundering when it comes to revenue targets. I think Quartz [1] also does it well (though it's also part of the Atlantic media group. Newer outlets do it well too -- e.g. theoutline.com and axios.com -- but b…

That comment is a fantastically informed response piece in itself. Are you going to post it elsewhere?

Agreed. Post gave me way more insights than I could have hoped for.

Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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3rd party is executing inside your first party context Lack of independent impression counting

>Lack of independent impression counting AKA Advertising companies are afraid website owners (and everybody else who can do it) are going to steal from them.

It should be pretty easy to do enough auditing to keep everyone honest - which they should be anyway as partners in this endeavor.

Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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This is obviously the right solution. It's what print newspapers and magazines do. Why isn't there a quality first-party ad platform? Is there a business opportunity here?

I think it comes down to control and trust. Right now advertisers can run all sorts of crazy stuff without reproach, they don't want to give that up. Having ads served by the first-party would also require the advertiser to trust them to report all data accurately. Perhaps another reason is that you lose the ability to track users through third-party cookies?

>through third-party cookies Which so many browsers are blocking

Re: Many major websites are taking silent anti-ad-blocking measures

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post #83

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This is obviously the right solution. It's what print newspapers and magazines do. Why isn't there a quality first-party ad platform? Is there a business opportunity here?

Some non-legacy news sites do make ads first-party content, i.e. native advertising or sponsored content. BuzzFeed is probably the most prolific at it [0], with a great tech team and focus, but even BuzzFeed is floundering when it comes to revenue targets. I think Quartz [1] also does it well (though it's also part of the Atlantic media group. Newer outlets do it well too -- e.g. theoutline.com and axios.com -- but b…

You are right that 1st party ads would have to step up the quality. That's just an added benefit.
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