The weird thing for me is that instead of partying people are watching Netflix videos of fictional people partying. Which makes those people fictional indeed. Are we going to eventually have movies about watching movies, about playing video games, and so on?
Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your parents had eliminated screens when you were very young (including theirs) save maybe one publicly-placed crappy terminal for wikipedia or looking up business hours or maps or learning you some programming or whatever, but loosened the reigns on hang-outs and travel, do you think you'd have still felt isolated because all your friends were still online most of the time? Asking as a parent with three young kid…
Just limit to one hour a day unless they’re programming or researching or creating and they’ll be fine. Was limited to an hour of tv and games a day as a kid and of course craved more, but me and siblings did well in school and socially partially from that. Anecdotal 2 cents.
I think this is a good point.
How are the screens being used—are they playing games or learning to make things? Making things should be encouraged.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your parents had eliminated screens when you were very young (including theirs) save maybe one publicly-placed crappy terminal for wikipedia or looking up business hours or maps or learning you some programming or whatever, but loosened the reigns on hang-outs and travel, do you think you'd have still felt isolated because all your friends were still online most of the time? Asking as a parent with three young kid…
You will screw up your kids just like your parents screwed you up.... You just don't know how yet. But it isn't really screwed up... It is called parenting. Then when u become a grandparent it begins to totally make sense....we all screw up our kids...teaching thwm how to recover is the real deal
As someone who was actually, legitimately, very seriously screwed up by my parents... I don't agree. "Screwing up your kids" and "parenting" are not at all synonymous.
Can we please treat this topic with the seriousness it deserves? This dismissal attitude makes me feel physically ill.
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#244The weird thing for me is that instead of partying people are watching Netflix videos of fictional people partying. Which makes those people fictional indeed. Are we going to eventually have movies about watching movies, about playing video games, and so on?
> Are we going to eventually have movies about watching movies
MST3K and it's descendants already exist.
> about playing video games,
Again, it's been done.
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#245I disagree with their conclusion. Yes, teens are certainly partying less. But they're also increasingly unwilling to get driver's licenses or jobs as well. Basically, the overly controlling atmosphere of schooling and helicopter parenting has worked - it has broken them. They are successfully being prevented from experiencing the natural maturation process of growing independence. We can only hope that the neurological development which supports independence and the ability to form and maintain complex human relationships is not like other aspects of neurological development which is impossible to compensate for if the critical period of development is missed.
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#246I wonder why the "young adult nightlife experience" feels so stagnant. I like going to the occasional upscale cocktail bar, but in general spending Friday or Saturday night in a crowded bar or club is not my idea of a fun thing to do. What is the alternative for more introverted people? Stay home? I went to Copenhagen recently and on a Friday night came across a big coffee/beer+wine place with lots of tables/sofas th…
I think there is a transition from a focus on consumption to a focus on creation. At least in my city (Phoenix), there are plenty of arts-focused, small parties happening in warehouses, art galleries, etc.
God damn hipsters...
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your parents had eliminated screens when you were very young (including theirs) save maybe one publicly-placed crappy terminal for wikipedia or looking up business hours or maps or learning you some programming or whatever, but loosened the reigns on hang-outs and travel, do you think you'd have still felt isolated because all your friends were still online most of the time? Asking as a parent with three young kid…
Kids approaching 7 and 10 watch some movies/vetted series online, only recently got Kindle tablets which they are literally only allowed to use on long (3 hr+) transits, never at home. No TV or analog in house. I am now torn as the older kid is at a prime age to introduce programming... ...but the benefits we see daily from no-screen childhood are to our biased eyes overwhelming. Our kids spend all their free time en…
I’m planning to set up a separate heavily filtered kids vlan/wireless network. I’ll leave some vulnerabilities in it so if they want unfiltered internet access they have to get it themselves.
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#248I know, I know this is anecdotal 'evidence'. I happen to be 21 which fits me right in this generation and the main reason this occurs is due to parenting. My parents wouldn't let me go _anywhere_ by myself until I was at least 17. By that time I was completely and utterly addicted to computing to just let go and 'hang out'. As a matter in fact most of my friends are online rather than 4 real friends in real life. It…
If your parents had eliminated screens when you were very young (including theirs) save maybe one publicly-placed crappy terminal for wikipedia or looking up business hours or maps or learning you some programming or whatever, but loosened the reigns on hang-outs and travel, do you think you'd have still felt isolated because all your friends were still online most of the time? Asking as a parent with three young kid…
Eh, you won't be able to give your children the independence they need to develop as a mature adult (society will prevent you from doing that), so might as well let them sink into a screen. The alternative is forbidding literally the only outlet in the entire world that gives them even the barest illusion of autonomy and surveilling and manipulating them continuously while watching them break down into learned helplessness.
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your parents had eliminated screens when you were very young (including theirs) save maybe one publicly-placed crappy terminal for wikipedia or looking up business hours or maps or learning you some programming or whatever, but loosened the reigns on hang-outs and travel, do you think you'd have still felt isolated because all your friends were still online most of the time? Asking as a parent with three young kid…
My opinion (as a parent of two <10yr old boys) is that screens are the new rock music/comic books/video games/bad-thing-du-jour that parents are demonizing as destroying the younger generation. There's always something, and it's never anywhere near as bad or destructive as was feared. It's just the next phase of a natural and inescapable societal progression.
Those were generally about culture and morals though, right? Rock and roll, drugs, etc scared parents because it was viewed as depraved & debaucherous, nobody was worried it was a substitute for good parenting and that it would impair your development of social skills.
Concerns about "screens" today seems more analogous to the old "TV-as-parent" issue.
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#250Society is sick, let's face it, and technology is largely to blame. We just can't see the danger in technology so long as we're blinded by everything shiny. Human beings are primarily social beings and no, that does not mean peering at each other through the alienating window of a mobile phone screen. In 1969, at the age of 9, I could be left to play with my friends and wander several miles from home without any sens…
> Society is sick, let's face it, and technology is largely to blame.
Maybe birthrate is more reasonable. Anecdotally, my nephew is an only child and he doesn't get to run around a lot (nor does he have a lot of desire to). When I was growing up in the 80's, it seemed like families were bigger, so it was less of a big deal if one kid drowns while swimming in the river or blows up playing with gasoline. If you only have one kid, you're probably less likely to attribute cliff jumping or playing with gasoline to "just kids being kids".