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>I'm running it in multiple servers You're the only one.
Eh, I also do that and in fact, archlinux.org and all of its servers are also hosted on Arch Linux. It works really quite well and there is little reason to suspect it should be any less stable than other distros.
Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
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Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
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The best performance can be had by just dumping some .html files into a directory and pointing nginx/Apache/whatever at it. Static site generators are a thing now.
Who cares about performance for a random blog? As long as you don't get hit by HN, of course.
There's this hidden assumption here that "the HN crowd" = "a huge amount of visitors". The typical HN crowd for a front-page article will be on the order of 10,000 visitors. That's really not much on the scale of the internet.
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
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>The best option for a stable desktop is Gentoo Get with the times, gramps. Arch is where the racing stripes are at now. Not held back by all these weird dinosaur architectures Arch can really optimise for superior speed, and features, and modern things, leaving Slackware steamboats, Debian diesels, and Gentoo petrols in the dust, because Arch is the EV of Linux operating systems. The world of anecdata and pointless…
I've used Arch years ago. It was a trainwreck. They had a very very bad QA and I had to reinstall every few months. The community is also full of people I wouldn't want to have around, as your own message shows. Also I don't use Gentoo to get "pointless optimisations". Ricers are the low hanging fruit that's there to be mocked. I use Gentoo because it's the best rolling out there.
That's way stronger than anything I intended to say, even if I made a bit of fun of the overly enthusiastic ones.
My joke was based on that way back when, when Gentoo was younger and the hip distro, whenever a thread discussed Debian on the desktop or server, a newly minted Gentoo user would drop by to extol the virtues of Gentoo for every use case possible: "But I use it on servers," "My desktop is so much faster," etc.
Now in this, and similar threads, I notice it's the Arch users who have taken over this function. So when you brought out Gentoo, it felt like a blast from the past, prompting me to accuse you of being "out of touch" for humourous effect. No offence (well, very minor offence) was intended, and I bear no ill will towards either Arch or Gentoo users.
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
#44As a serial distro hopper, my only complaint about using Debian Stable over the years is hardware compatibility. As the author noted, Stable isn't for the latest and greatest hardware. This was especially true for me a couple of years back when trying to run Debian Jessie on a then-new Intel Braswell based system. The video driver as shipped was unable to render at any resolution above 1024x768, and there were severe…
Couldn't see running it as my desktop distro since I like to fiddle with stuff and having an older compiler and python isn't really all that desirable. Back when I hacked on blender I was even having a hard time keeping up on 'bleeding-edge' fedora since one of the main devs liked to upgrade to the newest python release as soon as it was out.
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
#45Or in other words, "I use Debian Stable on my home computer and here's how I've justified it to myself". If Debian Stable does everything you want out of an operating system, by all means use it, there's no reason not to, but some other people may want to make use of the newer features of Linux and its surrounding ecosystem that aren't available in Debian Stable yet. The idea that Debian Stable is a good choice for a…
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
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Who cares about performance for a random blog? As long as you don't get hit by HN, of course.
On the other hand, why bother writing a blog if you don't expect any readers? There's this hidden assumption here that "the HN crowd" = "a huge amount of visitors". The typical HN crowd for a front-page article will be on the order of 10,000 visitors. That's really not much on the scale of the internet.
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
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There is a fundamental difference between system and applications. All common Linux distro unify them into one package management mechanism. Your comment suggests that NixOS is flexible enough to make a split. Android and iOS clearly separate system and applications and it mostly works fine. Ubuntu tries to split off applications via snap [0], but so far adoption seems marginal. [0] https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/sna…
If I understand NixOS correctly, there is no explicit distinction between system and applications, and everything is handled by the same package management mechanism. The value proposition is in having clean separation between all packages, such that each application can be presented with its own mix of system packages without any conflicts between them.
Furthermore, everything is done, or in the way to be done, in a functional way: system configuration, deployment, etc.
There are even efforts to manage dotfiles currently getting implemented.
IMHO, the Nix way is a great leap ahead.
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
#48As an Arch Linux user for years this hurts me. I can't even imagine living with all that old crufty stuff and then when you actually upgrade something you have library issues and so on. For those who are to afraid to run Arch, consider openSUSE Tumbleweed. It is as up to date (or more so) as Arch Linux but they do a lot of automated testing, plus they do a lot of automatic snapshots so you can go back if needed (that…
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
#49As a serial distro hopper, my only complaint about using Debian Stable over the years is hardware compatibility. As the author noted, Stable isn't for the latest and greatest hardware. This was especially true for me a couple of years back when trying to run Debian Jessie on a then-new Intel Braswell based system. The video driver as shipped was unable to render at any resolution above 1024x768, and there were severe…
It's literally the only distro I can run on my two My Book Live mini-file servers being powerPC and all. Have to run a patched kernel though. Couldn't see running it as my desktop distro since I like to fiddle with stuff and having an older compiler and python isn't really all that desirable. Back when I hacked on blender I was even having a hard time keeping up on 'bleeding-edge' fedora since one of the main devs li…
That said, I don't know how difficult it would be to install a non-Linux OS on that particular device; I know it was designed for and shipped with Debian. I've had success installing the various BSDs on all kinds of obscure hardware but I've yet to get my hands on a MyBook Live.
Re: Why Use Debian Stable on the Desktop?
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Not windows 10.
W10 runs fine on my laptop, a Thinkpad T440 with an i5-4300U, 8GB RAM and SSD. W10 does a fair few things wrong, but performance is not really one of them, unless you're on a Pentium 4 or something.
Windows seem to require many many CPU cycles just to update itself and index files (yet cortana never seems to find anything, but that's another discussion).