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Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore

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Re: Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore

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Post by Guest9812398 »

dawhizkid wrote: post #22

I wonder why the "young adult nightlife experience" feels so stagnant. I like going to the occasional upscale cocktail bar, but in general spending Friday or Saturday night in a crowded bar or club is not my idea of a fun thing to do. What is the alternative for more introverted people? Stay home? I went to Copenhagen recently and on a Friday night came across a big coffee/beer+wine place with lots of tables/sofas th…

I think there are lots of options.

1. Board game venues. They're becoming more popular, and yes, they exist in the US. I would be surprised if there wasn't one in any major US city.

2. Escape rooms. I think there are at least 50 in my city. They're literally everywhere if I search on Google Maps.

3. Cafes. If you're looking for something low key, you should be able to find some cafes with some hot wine, snacks, and couches for relaxing with friends.

4. Pubs. You can search for one with pool or darts if you feel like doing an activity while having casual drinks.

5. Meetups/Couchsurfing events. If you want to get together with a few dozen random people, there are usually events on both of these sites.

6. Rooftop or outdoor movie venues. They're a nice change from the usual movie theater if you want something a bit different.

7. VR experiences. These are starting to pop up as well. They have a bunch of rooms with headsets, and TVs showing what the person with the headset is seeing. So, you rent a room with friends, one person is playing, others are watching on the TV. Or, there are VR experiences where everyone puts on a headset, and you run around a VR warehouse playing together.

8. Lots of random activities that have existed for ages, like bowling, ice skating, go-karting, etc.

9. If you want very low key just go to a big book store, get a coffee, and read some books.

In short, I don't think the "young adult nightlife experience" is stagnant, and I think it's probably more interesting than ever before, with lots of alternatives to clubs or loud pubs.

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Post by dragonwriter »

thwiv wrote: post #40
dragonwriter wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is definitely true, and driven in part by media-driven hysteria that has led to the decades of the perception that child abduction and similar child targeting crimes are on the rise, while the reverse has been the case.

I mean, it could be that child abduction is falling because the media warns parents and they all keep better watch of their children.

It could be, though it was falling for a couple decades before the media attention started driving the widespread belief that it was increasing, and the behavior changed that resulted from that belief.

Re: Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore

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Post by pavel_lishin »

the-dude wrote: post #21
westmeal wrote: post #9

I know, I know this is anecdotal 'evidence'. I happen to be 21 which fits me right in this generation and the main reason this occurs is due to parenting. My parents wouldn't let me go _anywhere_ by myself until I was at least 17. By that time I was completely and utterly addicted to computing to just let go and 'hang out'. As a matter in fact most of my friends are online rather than 4 real friends in real life. It…

Here you have a 'counterdote' : I am 43. After the first year of high school ( I was 13 ), we were allowed to travel to the other side of the country by train, sleep in a youth hostel and return at the end of the next day. This is NL, the other side of the country is only 350km. When we tell younger friends, they refuse to believe.

America is a wholly different place. I was born in the mid-80s in Moscow, Russia, and moved to America when I was ten. Before I moved, I was regularly taking the subway, with transfers, to school - by myself.

Here in America, I had a coworker a few years ago who literally would not let his double-digit-aged children cross the street to school by themselves.

It's a weird fuckin' place.

Re: Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore

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Post by FussyZeus »

smelendez wrote: post #12
bluedino wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> It's also worth noting that it's much, much harder for teens to get ahold of booze these days 20 years ago we just had an older sibling or co-worker buy for us. What's changed?

More stigma attached to it for the buyer. Stricter enforcement of 21 to drink rules so older sibling will have a harder time buying with a fake ID if under 21. Fewer teens working so less interaction with over 21s.

Also see above about high consequences. Any over 21 with a brain wouldn't do it, because that's another of those ways to fuck your life up that boomers and Xers could afford to do, but millennials really can't.

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Post by pixelpp »

westmeal wrote: post #9

I know, I know this is anecdotal 'evidence'. I happen to be 21 which fits me right in this generation and the main reason this occurs is due to parenting. My parents wouldn't let me go _anywhere_ by myself until I was at least 17. By that time I was completely and utterly addicted to computing to just let go and 'hang out'. As a matter in fact most of my friends are online rather than 4 real friends in real life. It…

Agreed. My parents I guess just did not have time? I have no idea, I was just always home in front of a computer. Thankfully I was actually learning code, and stuff. I was a console gamer, not a PC gamer. My PC was cheap, and could not hang lol

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Post by [deleted] »

vinceguidry wrote: post #2

I have a theory that introversion and extraversion don't really exist as personality traits, and that we build up preferences out of existing culture about how much social interaction we want in our daily lives. If the culture changes, then so will our preferences. I can easily imagine a world in which I'm gregarious and fun all the time. Making that world happen on the other hand...

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Re: Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore

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Post by taway20171214 »

westmeal wrote: post #9

I know, I know this is anecdotal 'evidence'. I happen to be 21 which fits me right in this generation and the main reason this occurs is due to parenting. My parents wouldn't let me go _anywhere_ by myself until I was at least 17. By that time I was completely and utterly addicted to computing to just let go and 'hang out'. As a matter in fact most of my friends are online rather than 4 real friends in real life. It…

i'm not really sure that follows. i'm 35, and grew up in the 80s and 90s. i also wasn't 'allowed' to do a lot of things, but did them anyway along with my friends, and endured the consequences, simply because there was nothing else to do at home.

the internet didn't make a real impact on most teens until at least 1998 or 1999. i think today teens just have the option of hanging out virtually so they never push the boundaries.

Re: Teens Aren’t Partying Anymore

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Post by itsmillertime4u »

westmeal wrote: post #9

I know, I know this is anecdotal 'evidence'. I happen to be 21 which fits me right in this generation and the main reason this occurs is due to parenting. My parents wouldn't let me go _anywhere_ by myself until I was at least 17. By that time I was completely and utterly addicted to computing to just let go and 'hang out'. As a matter in fact most of my friends are online rather than 4 real friends in real life. It…

I think you are right with this too. I several friends and coworkers which are afraid to let the kid ride their bike through a neighborhood, play ball in the field, or roam the mall with a parent present. I'm starting to see this starting to flip though as more and more kids are having cellphones, which seem to give the parents more insight on where their kids are, and give them an avenue of getting hold of them when they need to.

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Post by graphitezepp »

maroonblazer wrote: post #27
donatj wrote: post #13

I am a total introvert and some of my happiest high school memories involve friends pushing me to go to giant parties that pushed me out of my comfort zone. I would say that there are moments in there which are integral to who I am as a person. I really feel like they’re missing out on a developmental milestone. I almost feel like these kids are brainwashed but that’s probably just me looking in as an outsider. I am…

> I really feel like they’re missing out on a developmental milestone. Are they though? Those milestones can take many different forms, as evidenced by the fact that "giant parties" are a relatively recent phenomenon, historically speaking.

Kids are missing out on developmental milestones, I know I did. It doesn't have to be parties. The just hanging out thing is down too according to the article. Many people are leaving their teen years far too sheltered and socially underdeveloped, because indulging in endless digital distraction takes up more and more of our time as a society.

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Post by aaron-santos »

temp-dude-87844 wrote: post #28
c8d3f7b49897918 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extraversion/Introversion is one of the big five personality traits and is ~50% heritable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#He... That's not to say introversion/extraversion wouldn't manifest differently in different contexts, but the trait does exist (as much as any personality trait does) and appears to have a large genetic component to it.

Isn't "~50% heritable" a different way of stating that the results are indistinguishable from a coin flip? That doesn't sound too hereditary.

I took it to mean a covariance of 0.5.
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