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Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
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Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
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This text reflow feature is key to my choosing a mobile browser. I use Opera mainly for this reason. Text reflow used to be standard. Does anyone know why Chrome and Firefox removed it?
There's the Fit Text to Width add-on for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/fit-text-to-w... The Accessibility section in the Firefox for Android settings also contains options for adapting pages to the system font size and overriding zoom-blocking. And there's the built-in Reader View which extracts and represents the text from supported pages.
Fit Text seems to work, thanks!
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#123I've been using UC Browser on my Nexus One for about a year.
It has two killer features:
- It can be installed (unlike Chrome, which never ran on Gingerbread, and Firefox, which I tried before but can now no longer reinstall).
- It renders most pages correctly, unlike the AOSP browser.
It unfortunately does not solve the other major problem with the Gingerbread ASOP browser: that I cannot connect to many modern SSL sites, so I keep Opera Mini around for those. (Opera Mini is otherwise terrible.)
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
iOS definitely allows you to implement your own browser engine. The only caveat is that Apple doesn’t let third-party apps to mmap executable memory, so you won’t be able to create a JITting JS engine.
Apps that browse the web must use the iOS WebKit framework and WebKit Javascript. Section 2.5.6 from https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/
Hm, you're right, I concede.
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#125Netmarketshare.com has actual usage of UCBrowser (on mobile) last month at: India: 4.54% China: 7.72% Indonesia: 6.76% Not exactly domination.
Ada banyak yang kita harus pahami sebelum mengukur jumlah pengguna di negara tersebut.
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds more to me like other mobile browsers are holding the web back by not paying more attention to the needs of the many. Users don't care about standards, just that things work.
And how are things ever going to work without standards? Standards aren't meant for end-users, they're meant for the engineers building the freaking software end-users are using. Imagine every electrical device in your home having its own distinct power cable. Every device requiring a different voltage (110V is a standard, who needs that?) and plug type. You'd be spending a lot more (as the end user) in converters an…
What standards? WHATWG publishes a living document, that's not a standard. Wake up, vendors control the web. If you wanted to make a competing browser today, you'd be utterly fucked because you'd never be able to implement the entire catalog of web features that exist today, and those feature sets change too rapidly.
There are no web standards. There are browsers and people who use them and developers who target those browsers.
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's really sad, because Firefox on Android is actually really great and the fact that you can run addons (e.g. uBlock Origin) makes it even better. In years past Firefox would occasionally crash on me, but I'm not sure it's ever even done that on my current phone, which is closing in on 9 months old. I'm not exactly treating it kindly either, I currently have 93 "tabs" open and though it doesn't keep those in memo…
I really want to use Firefox on my Pixel 2 but the scrolling still feels really chunky compared to Chrome. I hope there's still room for improvement there. I've been really happy with the newer Firefox builds on my MBP.
Firefox 58 should bring some bigger performance improvements still to Android. It's mostly going to bring those improvements to Android that Firefox 57 brought to the desktop, minus the UI and the deprecation of old extension APIs.
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
And how are things ever going to work without standards? Standards aren't meant for end-users, they're meant for the engineers building the freaking software end-users are using. Imagine every electrical device in your home having its own distinct power cable. Every device requiring a different voltage (110V is a standard, who needs that?) and plug type. You'd be spending a lot more (as the end user) in converters an…
What standards? WHATWG publishes a living document, that's not a standard. Wake up, vendors control the web. If you wanted to make a competing browser today, you'd be utterly fucked because you'd never be able to implement the entire catalog of web features that exist today, and those feature sets change too rapidly. There are no web standards. There are browsers and people who use them and developers who target thos…
So you're saying we should drop whatever unification WHATWG brings and leave everyone to do their own thing? That's certainly going to end well.
Saying "wake up" is a very dangerous statement; usually hints at ignorance more than anything else. Who do you think sits on the board of WHATWG? Its the very people building web browsers.
There's a reason making web apps doesn't suck nearly as much in 2018 as it did years ago, mostly because APIs are starting to be consistent across browsers. Thats standards for you, even living ones. (Its a living standard, not a living document, by the way.)
I'm very curious as to how you'll make a website that works in all browsers if they're all free to implement radically different interfaces to HTML/CSS/JS. Don't even think about web apps, or having 3D stuff.
Lets all go back to using glue libraries like jQuery like its 2010 again. That sounds fun.
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it correctly supports HTTPS right? If so, then a MITM attack shouldn't be possible unless your system trusts a bad CA.
sslstrip exists. HTTPS support doesn't matter if you don't get HTTPS.
sslstrip does not stop HTTPS connections. It simply replaces https links on a page with http, and that itself requires the initially manipulated page to be served over plain HTTP.
It was far more relevant when websites were mostly HTTP, but used HTTPS for login or payment pages.
Re: Alibaba’s UC Browser is dominating in Asian markets with lower-end smartphones
#130If you’re in iOS, UC is a great way to pop out videos so you can, for example, watch a YouTube video while reading Hacker News. It also enables you to listen to just about any video in the background, when you switch to other apps.
Sounds handy! Can anyone speak to how it treats privacy?
I don’t use it for anything that requires login