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Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #85

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Censorship can only be committed by the government. The fact that facebook is complying with requests from governments is both the right and responsibility of facebook.

Facebook is bigger than some governments. It deals with governments almost as a peer. No newspaper baron of the 20th century ever had such power. Not Murdoch. Not Hearst.

Let me know when facebook gets us into a war with another world power.

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #99

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> Censorship can only be committed by the government. False. Heck, the modern understanding of censorship is strongly influenced by the (officially, still continuing, but greatly reduced in significance even within the Catholic community) official censorship practice of the Catholic Church. Now, there are certainly consideration that apply tomstaye censorship that may not apply equally to non-state censorship, but st…

The Catholic church was the government in large parts of the western world back in the day.

No, it wasn't. The Catholic Church had separate-from-the-state but binding authority in some areas of life, and something like extraterritoriality in much of the Western world, but it wasn't the government ever over any but a few relatively small parts of the Western World (well, technically, never over any of it, though certain clerical positions were conjoined to positions of state authority, either lower in the feudal heirarchy or, occasionally, actual sovereignties like the papal states or one of the co-princes of Andorra.)

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #90

>96 percent of Palestinians said their primary use of Facebook was for following news This is astounding to me given the likelihood of Facebook's unspoken allegiances and their history with respect to censorship.

But how much of that "news" is propaganda/incitement to violence?

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #19

It sad to see such an article in the top posts at HW... I wouldn't even bother to reply if not for good people getting the wrong picture on what's going on. Yes, Facebook does delete posts (Nothing new so far), though only ones which violate Facebook's rules. I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. I'm not here to blame, nor generalize. I'm saying that this…

>For what it's worth, the hatred being published about Israel does not go the other way around. I, and many others, do respect and have no hate for Palestinians. The article does disagree with that view. >As Al Jazeera reported last year, “Inflammatory speech posted in the Hebrew language . . . has attracted much less attention from the Israeli authorities and Facebook. One study found that ‘122,000 users directly ca…

Remember who owns Al Jazeeera.

Hint: A terrorist sponsor.

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #27

It sad to see such an article in the top posts at HW... I wouldn't even bother to reply if not for good people getting the wrong picture on what's going on. Yes, Facebook does delete posts (Nothing new so far), though only ones which violate Facebook's rules. I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. I'm not here to blame, nor generalize. I'm saying that this…

> I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. Well, if you bury your head in the sand on a hot summer afternoon and proceed to claim its night, it's hard to take further claims seriously. I will agree that there is extremists on both ends that just furthers their own political/economic interests and muddies the water. ...but my analysis of the conflict over ther…

He didn't say that no such thing happens. He said he doesn't see it on Facebook because it's against their terms of service.

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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I encourage you to come over and see how things actually go by. People are getting killed by terrorists who happen to be 16 years old kid brain-washed by the same news you and I are having an argument over. My point was that we've never demonstrated the same approach to the so-called beef. We do not go out to the streets, gun blazing, and start killing. I'm sure some of you will hop and go say "Right, you prefer to d…

Israel kills far more Palestinians than Palestinians kill Israelis.

And this is a sporting event where we should equalize the sides? The idea that the death toll proves anything is lunacy.

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #85

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Facebook is bigger than some governments. It deals with governments almost as a peer. No newspaper baron of the 20th century ever had such power. Not Murdoch. Not Hearst.

Let me know when facebook gets us into a war with another world power.

You've been using HN primarily for ideological and political battle. That's an abuse of the site, and we ban accounts that do it, so would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use the site as intended?

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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It sad to see such an article in the top posts at HW... I wouldn't even bother to reply if not for good people getting the wrong picture on what's going on. Yes, Facebook does delete posts (Nothing new so far), though only ones which violate Facebook's rules. I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. I'm not here to blame, nor generalize. I'm saying that this…

One could argue that turning a blind eye to the most basic of facts is itself, slander.

> Palestinians attacking locals

That attitude, in a nutshell, is a large part of the problem.

The Palestinians ARE the locals.

Once you accept the above, everything else starts to make sense.

Ignore this most obvious of facts, and then you start asking nonsensical questions like "why are they so touchy?" ,"why do they hate us?", "why are they so angry?", and "why aren't they content with living in a large open camp?"

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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Israel kills far more Palestinians than Palestinians kill Israelis.

And this is a sporting event where we should equalize the sides? The idea that the death toll proves anything is lunacy.

Are you arguing that the death toll proves nothing?

A race to zero is what I’m after. It’s been/being done in other places, it can happen there.

Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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post #19

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>For what it's worth, the hatred being published about Israel does not go the other way around. I, and many others, do respect and have no hate for Palestinians. The article does disagree with that view. >As Al Jazeera reported last year, “Inflammatory speech posted in the Hebrew language . . . has attracted much less attention from the Israeli authorities and Facebook. One study found that ‘122,000 users directly ca…

Remember who owns Al Jazeeera. Hint: A terrorist sponsor.

A strict definition sees many governments tarred with this brush, with the US, Russia, UK being stand outs. Others see the terrorists as freedom fighting, and they have some good points. This line of arguing achieves nothing, but that’s the point isn’t it?

AJ has some of the best reporting about, but attacking the messenger and not the message is far easier isn’t it?

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