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Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Dec 31, 2017, 7:21 PM UTC

cbstory wrote: post #62

insickness wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This is sexist." I'm loathe to even respond to this type of non-argument but I'll bite. You're calling my argument sexist because it points to behavioral differences between genders? Or is it because it points to differences that may not be 100% social construct?

Neither. I said "kind of", not "is". In principle this kind of argument can be done in an intellectually consistent way, with sources and statistics. Instead you've followed a pattern I've seen time and time again. An uncontentious fact (men are more visually aroused) followed by a unsupported train of thought that leads to a significantly speculative conclusion about the preferences/desires of a demographic that to…

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Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by dragonwriter » Sun, Dec 31, 2017, 10:40 PM UTC

daveFNbuck wrote: post #66

dragonwriter wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Porn isn't a viable explanation if the effect was larger among people who don't watch porn. It is if porn is ubiquitous enough in society and is setting (or communicating) changing cultural expectations and signaling mechanisms related to sex, and those who abstain are therefore missing out on that context.

That's a very different explanation than the one I was responding to, in which men are having less sex because they'd rather just watch porn.

That's true, I was responding to what you actually said in your response, not defending the position you were responding to.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by daveFNbuck » Sun, Dec 31, 2017, 11:22 PM UTC

AmVess wrote: post #44

I'd blame work and stress. Your average person is working longer hours for less financial benefit, while the cost of basics (housing and health care) has gone way up. Longer working hours for less money makes people tired and stressed...two instant mood killers; and a condition that is likely chronic among many. "Netflix and chill" is the modern term for hooking up, but for many it probably simply means what it means…

From the abstract of the paper:

> The decline was not linked to longer working hours

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by denkmoon » Mon, Jan 01, 2018, 3:43 AM UTC

cbstory wrote: post #62

insickness wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This is sexist." I'm loathe to even respond to this type of non-argument but I'll bite. You're calling my argument sexist because it points to behavioral differences between genders? Or is it because it points to differences that may not be 100% social construct?

Neither. I said "kind of", not "is". In principle this kind of argument can be done in an intellectually consistent way, with sources and statistics. Instead you've followed a pattern I've seen time and time again. An uncontentious fact (men are more visually aroused) followed by a unsupported train of thought that leads to a significantly speculative conclusion about the preferences/desires of a demographic that to…

That's kind of a cop out.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by manicdee » Mon, Jan 01, 2018, 9:57 PM UTC

jimmies wrote: post #26

insickness wrote: post #8

I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. Men consume porn far more than women because men are more visually stimulated than women. This has been verified by numerous scientific studies. In many ways, women can't compete with porn. Hundreds of years ago, the average man would be delighted to get sex from the average woman in his local community. Through porn, your average guy has seen more…

While that might sound logical at the first glance, the abstract stated that "The decline was not linked to longer working hours or increased pornography use." https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s10508-017-0953-1

Who needs porn when you have the various “gone wild” subreddits?

I have not ever watched a porn movie.

File this under “How to bias your survey results to hide information and make it look like your project needs to be funded for a few more years”?

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by tomjen3 » Tue, Jan 02, 2018, 9:11 AM UTC

yodsanklai wrote: post #48

insickness wrote: post #8

I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. Men consume porn far more than women because men are more visually stimulated than women. This has been verified by numerous scientific studies. In many ways, women can't compete with porn. Hundreds of years ago, the average man would be delighted to get sex from the average woman in his local community. Through porn, your average guy has seen more…

> I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. I can see why porn has an impact in people having less sex but, porn is nothing new. When I was a teenager in the 80s, porn was readily available in VHS. Slightly less convenient that online porn, but equivalent for most purpose. > Men are far less willing to deal with all the pitfalls, annoyance and cost of dating There's much more than sex in a…

But back then you had to go out to a specific shop and talk with the person in the shop, about your desires (or at least face him when paying).

Now you can have your _exact_ fantasy, at no social embarrassment, in the privacy of your home.