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Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by wolco »

insickness wrote: post #8

I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. Men consume porn far more than women because men are more visually stimulated than women. This has been verified by numerous scientific studies. In many ways, women can't compete with porn. Hundreds of years ago, the average man would be delighted to get sex from the average woman in his local community. Through porn, your average guy has seen more…

I think porn encourages more real life encounters. Simulationing those parts of the brain can lead to more desire for more simulation at a deeper level which leads to more encounters.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by mcphage »

insickness wrote: post #8

I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. Men consume porn far more than women because men are more visually stimulated than women. This has been verified by numerous scientific studies. In many ways, women can't compete with porn. Hundreds of years ago, the average man would be delighted to get sex from the average woman in his local community. Through porn, your average guy has seen more…

> the average woman seems like a lame approximation for what can be accessed readily online

I dunno about you, but I really go for that third dimension.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by daveFNbuck »

insickness wrote: post #8

I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. Men consume porn far more than women because men are more visually stimulated than women. This has been verified by numerous scientific studies. In many ways, women can't compete with porn. Hundreds of years ago, the average man would be delighted to get sex from the average woman in his local community. Through porn, your average guy has seen more…

From the abstract of the paper this article is about:

> Declines in sexual frequency were similar across gender, race, region, educational level, and work status and were largest among those in their 50s, those with school-age children, and those who did not watch pornography.

Porn isn't a viable explanation if the effect was larger among people who don't watch porn.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by bmitch3020 »

I don't think you can blame one thing.

I blame smart phones, but blame is a strong word. We no communicate with texting, social networking, and many other means than in-person conversations. Teenagers are electing to get a drivers license later in life because they don't need a car to be connected to their friends. Less in-person interaction results in less opportunity for intimate interaction.

I blame the womens movement, and that's a good thing. More women are placing their careers first, and getting around to having a family later and later in their lives.

I also blame the economy. The recession ended technically, meaning we stopped getting worse. But our economy isn't seeing the wage growth that would indicate a prosperous environment that encourages recreational activities, and procreation.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by Pica_soO »

xandar11 wrote: post #42

I've experienced a traumatic event recently. After being rejected by hundreds of women, I'm still a virgin at 24. Recently, I saw a video in weird corners of the internet of a very cute girl copulating with some dog. Dog can get laid easily while for me it's impossible at this point. Women are telling me that I'm BENEATH a dog. They'd rather be copulating with a dog, cucumber, dildo or stay single than be with me :(

Dont feel bad - it has nothing to do with value or worth. Most people with familys here on HN dont realize they wont have grand-children for example. All that tech killed the instincts. Grand-cats and horses maybee.

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by ellius »

bostik wrote: post #36

To sum up and to thrown an idea up in the air: There has been a decline in sex over the past decade. It can't be purely coincidental that while the world became witness to a depressing depression, people are having less sex. After all, depression is often linked to reduced libido... and if you're constantly stressed out over your (and your family's) future, you might not have enough energy to enjoy sex either, which…

I’m surprised there has been so much less response to this comment than so many of the others. It’s very plausible that the root causes of widespread depression and a widespread decrease in sex are related. I’m not sure you can easily pull out any one cause, but it would be reasonable to suspect that modern work and social habits are leading factors (possibly also diet).

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by insickness »

cbstory wrote: post #41
insickness wrote: post #8

I would attribute it more the glut of free online porn than netflix. Men consume porn far more than women because men are more visually stimulated than women. This has been verified by numerous scientific studies. In many ways, women can't compete with porn. Hundreds of years ago, the average man would be delighted to get sex from the average woman in his local community. Through porn, your average guy has seen more…

This pretty speculative and kind of sexist. I mean you could kind of flip it around, only instead of men and porn it's women and dating apps. That the likes of tinder makes the most attractive men far more accessible to women, so they are no longer interested in the average man. And similarly tinder apps and the like have drastically reduced the costs of dating compared to the past. It's private, you only get hit on…

"This is sexist."

I'm loathe to even respond to this type of non-argument but I'll bite. You're calling my argument sexist because it points to behavioral differences between genders? Or is it because it points to differences that may not be 100% social construct?

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by throwawaybanana »

always_good wrote: post #46
xandar11 wrote: post #42

I've experienced a traumatic event recently. After being rejected by hundreds of women, I'm still a virgin at 24. Recently, I saw a video in weird corners of the internet of a very cute girl copulating with some dog. Dog can get laid easily while for me it's impossible at this point. Women are telling me that I'm BENEATH a dog. They'd rather be copulating with a dog, cucumber, dildo or stay single than be with me :(

Well, for one thing, you know exactly what you're getting into when fucking a dildo. It doesn't come with feelings or emotions or a sense of inferiority. There's no social baggage attached to the arrangement. It's also always available to fuck. It's not gonna tell its friends nor yours. You just fuck it and clean it. So don't take it personally. Same reason why men and women watch porn even when they are in a fulfill…

(I can't reply to your original comment because some soulless person decided to flag it instead of helping a guy in a lot of pain.)

Seriously, women are not worth the pain you're feeling. I'm not the biggest stud, by I've had short relations and quite long relations, and no matter what, the juice ain't worth the squeeze.

Look into MGTOW (men going their own way). There's a lot of wisdom in that community. Go to mgtow.reddit.com and read the sidebar.

All the best brother. Please don't do something stupid!

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by always_good »

amriksohata wrote: post #17

Porn not Netflix, why would any male want sex with the effort of chasing a woman, romanticising, dealing with the hard-line feminists, when they can just knock one out for free?

Dunno, I can't imagine most men actually preferring masturbation over sex when given the choice. Most men would consider themselves in a spot of sexual destitution if all they were doing was wanking.

I think more likely the modern male is barraged by messages like "approaching women is 'rapey'/creepy." And it's easier for people to get by without developing social skills. If men aren't approaching women, then nobody gets laid.

I reckon there's a gradual collapse in the confidence and self-identity of the modern western male that can be tied to some sort of Everyone Loves Raymond emasculation slash feminization going on in our culture.

For example, along with these positive women's rights messages that most men support, there also are messages that look a lot like women-can-do-no-wrong which end up alienating men. Or something I can only describe as male-shaming. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703779704576073...

Re: Americans are having less sex and researchers are blaming Netflix

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Post by throwawaybanana »

ozim wrote: post #49
throwawaymonkie wrote: post #16

I worry that #metoo also scares men of from approaching women?

Actually in the Netherlands you can get fine or get jailed for catcalling https://dutchreview.com/news/dutch-news/rotterdam-ban-catcal... . My girlfriend was called by some creeps at least couple of times on the streets of Amsterdam wintertime in winter clothes. Freaking insane. Approaching women has its place like parties, social gatherings where you can actually dance or have conversation. If you have friends outin…

That's insane! Jail-time for talking to a girl?

How did society get this fucked up, so that a guy should be scared of talking to a girl? I know you said "hitting on a girl", but you have no way to know if the girl will misunderstand you trying to have a friendly conversation with you coming on to her. Best advice is to stay far away from women in all aspects of life.

(I'm not invested in this, I've never really approached girls outside of parties/bars, and then only if they were clearly interested. I'm currently in a long-term relationship, but if that don't work out, I'm fully MGTOW.)

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