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Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by paulcole »

mindfulplay wrote: post #40

Nepal has more basic things to worry about. Sorry. Some rich dude hanging at the edge of some cliff should be problem number 58299 in their or my list. This is gone crazy. At least have a written note that forbids anyone from saving their life if it comes to it. They put their own life and the rescuers' lives at risk. Everytime someone proudly says 'i climbed the Everest ' oh cool, I immediately think, who is the she…

Rich dudes don’t climb solo. They pay six figures for guided expeditions with all the trimmings.

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by paulcole »

ryannevius wrote: post #25

It's unfortunate that world-class alpinists such as Kilian Jornet -- who recently summited Everest solo, in 26 hours, without supplemental oxygen, after training his ass off for years [1] -- won't be able to attempt such a challenge again (unless I'm missing something). There has to be a better solution to the problem mentioned in the article. [1] https://www.outsideonline.com/2187266/kilian-jornet-summits-...

Seems like there’s doubts that Kilian submitted at all. Personally, I think he did, but as of now there’s really no proof.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8591724

Edit: Why downvote this? Is there any evidence Kilian submitted beyond his word?

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by mindfulplay »

basicplus2 wrote: post #4

Why ban solo climbing? If an idiot wants to do something stupid, why interfere with natural selection? And why waste money looking for them?

I am with you there.

But rich priveleged people have both the means to do stupid shit and willingly/callously put other people's lives at risk when their stupidity causes an oops moment.

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by Fordrus »

mindfulplay wrote: post #40

Nepal has more basic things to worry about. Sorry. Some rich dude hanging at the edge of some cliff should be problem number 58299 in their or my list. This is gone crazy. At least have a written note that forbids anyone from saving their life if it comes to it. They put their own life and the rescuers' lives at risk. Everytime someone proudly says 'i climbed the Everest ' oh cool, I immediately think, who is the she…

Well, banning the practice is the first step towards doing exactly that. The whole world is a lot more understanding of the stance, "Sorry, we cannot go and rescue [person X]," when person X got in trouble because of illegal activity they were performing - and there are few more effective methods of making someone adopt the stance espoused by your proposed note, "I forbid you from rescuing me," than making the practice illegal.

So, essentially, I agree, I just think this is the proper way for Nepal to go about de-prioritizing this particular problem. :)

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by mindfulplay »

paulcole wrote: post #41
mindfulplay wrote: post #40

Nepal has more basic things to worry about. Sorry. Some rich dude hanging at the edge of some cliff should be problem number 58299 in their or my list. This is gone crazy. At least have a written note that forbids anyone from saving their life if it comes to it. They put their own life and the rescuers' lives at risk. Everytime someone proudly says 'i climbed the Everest ' oh cool, I immediately think, who is the she…

Rich dudes don’t climb solo. They pay six figures for guided expeditions with all the trimmings.

That's even worse.

If it's for Instagram selfie pleasure I have better ideas for these people.

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by WalterBright »

danaur wrote: post #24
WalterBright wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just a waste of money. Climbing Everest, even with oxygen, produces permanent brain damage.

Interested in this, where did you read/hear this?

"Into Thin Air" by Krakauer. I've seen it other places, too.

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by mindfulplay »

Fordrus wrote: post #45
mindfulplay wrote: post #40

Nepal has more basic things to worry about. Sorry. Some rich dude hanging at the edge of some cliff should be problem number 58299 in their or my list. This is gone crazy. At least have a written note that forbids anyone from saving their life if it comes to it. They put their own life and the rescuers' lives at risk. Everytime someone proudly says 'i climbed the Everest ' oh cool, I immediately think, who is the she…

Well, banning the practice is the first step towards doing exactly that. The whole world is a lot more understanding of the stance, "Sorry, we cannot go and rescue [person X]," when person X got in trouble because of illegal activity they were performing - and there are few more effective methods of making someone adopt the stance espoused by your proposed note, "I forbid you from rescuing me," than making the practi…

Agreed. Just don't call poor people to come clean up your mess.

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by throwawaylalala »

paulcole wrote: post #44
throwawaylalala wrote: post #28

Killian Journet just ran to the top twice, solo. No supplemental oxygen. Looks like his record will stand.

Did he start on the Nepalese or Chinese side? I haven’t seen this mentioned in any articles about him.

They discuss base camp a lot, so I believe it was Nepal. Certainly it could be China, but I think they would have highlighted that. Also, he did it without fixed ropes.

Re: Nepal bans solo climbers from Mount Everest

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Post by ng12 »

ryannevius wrote: post #25

It's unfortunate that world-class alpinists such as Kilian Jornet -- who recently summited Everest solo, in 26 hours, without supplemental oxygen, after training his ass off for years [1] -- won't be able to attempt such a challenge again (unless I'm missing something). There has to be a better solution to the problem mentioned in the article. [1] https://www.outsideonline.com/2187266/kilian-jornet-summits-...

True, but surmounting Everest is not the end-game. K2 is a more grueling, technically difficult climb -- and it's only ~800ft shorter than Everest. That's sort of the problem here, even though Everest is the tallest it's a relatively accessible climb with enough money/gear/training.
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