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Docker is Dead

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Re: Docker is Dead

#21
Not a Docker fanboy, but... - Docker !== Kubernetes. - not liking a company !== the company’s product is obsolete. - clumsy marketing !== the company’s product is obsolete.

Dare I say click bait?

Re: Docker is Dead

#22

If Docker's future is an acquisition, who will it be? I have not thought deeply about this, but like the author, I have also heard scuttlebutt. From the "good for us" perspective, the community would not miss the company's leadership on Linux Container standardization nearly as much as the aggregation service that is DockerHub. But from the "good for the acquiring company" perspective, who would care? A GitHub or a R…

It's been my impression that they're angling for either a VMWare or Microsoft acquisition. They both like buying things that live at the edge of enterprise-y and trendy.

Docker would fit nicely Microsoft’s Azure container offensive and new found love for all things Linux. They tried Mesosphere, but that didn’t work out.

Re: Docker is Dead

#23

Dead? Really? TLDR - author disapproves of Docker's management & monetization strategy. However, offers no evidence for a "dying" docker. ClickBait.

The author offers some reasonably strong evidence to discuss: 1) rapid adoption of Kubernetes 2) shiftless response strategy 3) aspects of the response strategy that imply internal *recognition* the company won't last 4) changes to organizational structure / personnel (I suspect, as other commenters have pointed out, that you are conflating Docker with LXC. This is understandable! Docker-the-company was/is very good…

Mobile friendly list:

1) rapid adoption of Kubernetes

2) shiftless response strategy

3) aspects of the response strategy that imply internal recognition the company won't last

4) changes to organizational structure / personnel

(Don't use code formatting for lists, use a blank line between each item.)

Re: Docker is Dead

#24
"Docker has protected some crappy people along its rise. This led to my personal dislike of the company’s leadership."

-> what is he referring to ?

Re: Docker is Dead

#25
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been my impression that they're angling for either a VMWare or Microsoft acquisition. They both like buying things that live at the edge of enterprise-y and trendy.

Docker would fit nicely Microsoft’s Azure container offensive and new found love for all things Linux. They tried Mesosphere, but that didn’t work out.

Can you elaborate about what has been tried and what hasn't worked out?

Re: Docker is Dead

#27
post #25
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Docker would fit nicely Microsoft’s Azure container offensive and new found love for all things Linux. They tried Mesosphere, but that didn’t work out.

Can you elaborate about what has been tried and what hasn't worked out?

Microsoft made an offer for Mesosphere, but they turned it down [0]. These deals are of course never that "snappy". They probably had long and hard negotiations, but the deal never happened.

0: http://www.businessinsider.com/florian-leibert-mesosphere-ce...

Re: Docker is Dead

#28
post #15

Despite the rise of Kubernetes, it's not for every use case and far from it. Docker Swarm and Docker Compose are extremely valuable with small deployments and development. It's by the far the easiest and simplest way to get a cluster up and running.

The keyword there is small. Companies with small deployments don't buy enterprise SaaSes.

Re: Docker is Dead

#29

The article title should probably differentiate between the state of Docker as a company, and Docker as a software product. That said, with all major cloud providers now offering Kubernetes cluster management with a free Kubernetes host , and the economy-of-scale offered by those cloud providers driving the costs of cloud computing down, I'm not sure how Docker Swarm can compete.

Docker as a software product may die pretty soon as people switch to containerd which includes more or less all the functionality you want and none of the bugs you don't want.

Re: Docker is Dead

#30

If Docker's future is an acquisition, who will it be? I have not thought deeply about this, but like the author, I have also heard scuttlebutt. From the "good for us" perspective, the community would not miss the company's leadership on Linux Container standardization nearly as much as the aggregation service that is DockerHub. But from the "good for the acquiring company" perspective, who would care? A GitHub or a R…

Agree that Microsoft would be a plausible buyer. They have deep pockets, have hired ex-Docker engineers such as Jess Frazelle on the Azure team, and are investing heavily in the capability to run Linux-based Docker containers seamlessly on Windows. However, they still need to persuade people to use their stack. Aquiring Docker-the-company is the sort of thing Microsoft would do to buy their way into the market.
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