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The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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This sort of stuff at one point was handled by hosting providers. It now seems that the internet is "facebook/google" so it is no wonder they are getting the brunt of this sot of work. I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out. 8k post in a day is just too many for one person. Its not about how much work they are doing, its about th…

Any neural network can probably be gamed by people that really want to get around it.

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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I would expect that social media websites whose content is largely decided democratically (via votes, shares, or the like) would relegate the majority of this content to a place where it is not seen by many. I would argue that the best way to handle this issue is to let the sites mechanisms deal with the content accordingly and then focus efforts on developing processes that will be able to detect and remove it autom…

If you have voting and subreddits you’d just end up with a community that only upvotes what they think is the best child porn (ie: Reddit’s jailbait subreddits)

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

#54

The real problem is not that such content exists, the problem is that Facebook makes it horrifically easy to distribute such content. Back when Facebook was more of interacting with people rather that liking and subscribing to whatever these content and joke pages shoved down these concerns where not present much. Clickbait, etc is just a natural progression of like and subscribing culture. My Facebook feed about a y…

I've taken to blocking all those random joke pages on sight.

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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post #5

This sort of stuff at one point was handled by hosting providers. It now seems that the internet is "facebook/google" so it is no wonder they are getting the brunt of this sot of work. I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out. 8k post in a day is just too many for one person. Its not about how much work they are doing, its about th…

> Facebook will have 7,500 content reviewers by the end of December, up from 4,500, and it plans to double the number of employees and contractors who handle safety and security issues to 20,000 by the end of 2018. Seems like the bulk of these roles are contract. "$24/hour" was mentioned in the article. Probably no health benefits. Probably no counseling. 251 working days * 8 hours * $24 = $48,192. Less taxes. Less s…

I am optimistic about human in the middle. I imagine a large grid of small thumbnails and the Google Captcha style "Choose the pictures that are not gruesome" (i.e. differentiating between violence, a video game, and a red scarf). Many reports could be resolved quickly this way. I would be interested in a more proactive solution that is well documented publicly so that we can apply the tech to blogs/news.

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

#57
post #6

Abuse departments make Internets not feel like hpme since maybe 2005. I for once will be happier if they stop doing that.

Abuse departments make their respective platforms better places to be, largely because most people do not want to sift through a flood of angry pro-white propaganda and "jailbait". Just look at the horrendous quality of discourse on Voat. Or worse, 8chan.

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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post #57
post #6

Abuse departments make Internets not feel like hpme since maybe 2005. I for once will be happier if they stop doing that.

Abuse departments make their respective platforms better places to be, largely because most people do not want to sift through a flood of angry pro-white propaganda and "jailbait". Just look at the horrendous quality of discourse on Voat. Or worse, 8chan.

So previously you all were talking about filtering child porn, but now you admit the desire to filter out political content you disagree with? That's, like, dramatic reversal.

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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The internet really is an incredible cesspool. It would be interesting to see how the public reacted if YouTube and Facebook turned off their content moderation for a week. It would make the goatse meme look like a Sunday school picnic.

Yes, but really, humanity is the incredible cesspool. Facebook is just mirror. The interesting thing is that instead of trying to prosecute the criminals behind this content we would rather just censor it so we can pretend it doesn't exist.

I disagree. 99% of us are good people. The cesspool loves a stage/soapbox though.

Re: The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook will have 7,500 content reviewers by the end of December, up from 4,500, and it plans to double the number of employees and contractors who handle safety and security issues to 20,000 by the end of 2018. Seems like the bulk of these roles are contract. "$24/hour" was mentioned in the article. Probably no health benefits. Probably no counseling. 251 working days * 8 hours * $24 = $48,192. Less taxes. Less s…

This definitely seems like a good place for either regulation or unionization. Unionization would likely be difficult though due to the low barrier of entry for the job - artificial barriers would have to be created by the union and those break down pretty easily due to human factors (see Walmart). I'm all for regulation in this case. Require that folks who review content for illegal posts be limited in the amount of…

Unionization doesn't work very well when you can trivially outsource the job/task. It'd be necessary to entirely remake the US economy, because you'd have to enable union powers that could directly control all actions by the parent corporation, including setting up overseas / outsourcing.
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