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Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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Tangential, but what other fascinating things can I do with an SDR dongle? I've had one for years and have not heard of this. * Listen to various radio stations * Track airplane positions * Receive weather images from a satellite what else? One other thing off the top of my head is combining ship position and cargo databases: https://github.com/marcdacosta/ambient-shipping

Radio astronomy, although you'll need additional hardware

Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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I hadn't heard of the company Sense before I read about this blog. I looked up their product... 300 bucks, are you kidding me? And it requires licensed installation on top of that, so maybe even more in labor. Who's buying this stuff and how is their margin defensible from Tesla or somebody selling Raspberry Pi kits for $25?

Its defensible because people are paying it...go on, you can buy the current clamps for a few bucks and make your own competitor for $25 a pop... you wont though because its easier to shit on things than actually do something.

Except no-one's paying for it. It's a useless product solving a problem few people have. It's a hardware company with no margin for error that will die an expensive death. I have done and built things and profited immensely from them. When you get defensive over valid criticism that isn't even directed at you, it shows that you're the one that will never get there. Even so, I've never charged 1000% margin for so little value added.

Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it took him that long in his first try doesn’t mean that holds true of everyone.

There's no way to tie the signal to a specific house without the serial number or a reading.

Monitor the usage and look for a change? E.g. I see the person come home and turn on their lights, whichever meter shows an increase at that time is theirs.

Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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It's weird that he didn't give the ELK stack a chance. Kibana would be awesome at graphing this and data ingestion would also be very simple.

Very useful for automatically generating graphs based on data. Would have automated the whole "writing PHP + jQuery + SQLITE3" part entirely - and consume the JSON directly and created visualizations based on that.

Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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* OWL power monitor with inductive clamp and separate LCD display (in the reduced bin at the local DIY barn), transmits data on 433MHz - £12 * Arduino Mega+ESP8266 combo board - £8 * Rflink Rx/TX board - order a kit or build your own ( http://www.rflink.nl/blog2/wiring ) 433 or 868MHz operation, can also work with some devices at 2.4GHz - About £15 * Rflink software ( http://www.rflink.nl/blog2/ ) + Serial link softw…

You can also buy clamp sensors that can be connected directly to a microcontroller (with an ADC - so not a Raspberry Pi without external hardware). http://www.homautomation.org/2013/09/17/current-monitoring-w...

The clamp only systems lack accuracy due to not measuring supply voltage. Commercial/open source energy meters based on chips like the ADE7953[0] have a resistive voltage divider to attenuate the supply voltage to suitable level for the chip but preserving the envelope for sampling. The problem is there is no galvanic isolation, so interfacing is harder.

[0] http://www.analog.com/en/products/analog-to-digital-converte...

Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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>>I use PHP. There, I admitted it. Very happy to see stuff like this in blog posts. I use it all the time to stand up scripts like this. It makes me REALLY happy to see hacky code like: >>exec("/scripts/gocode/bin/rtlamr -msgtype={$type} --format=json --filterid={$unitid} --single=true",$output); I also do this all the time, even to control Windows processes on client/slave machines (generally killing and relaunching…

The problem that it takes a $type="; rm -rf /" to ruin your day.

Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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> Some research told me that the power company accomplishes this via a simple radio broadcast on the 900Mhz spectrum. Interesting. Around here (mainland Europe) they're currently installing "smart" meters which do this using CPL rather than radio. > And with one simple command, I was reading the power (and probably water) meters for my entire neighborhood That is a bit troubling from a physical security perspective,…

What about thieves going around selecting data and pinpointing the house the one with the least consumption so they can find out if you are absent or not. Incredible techonology

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Re: Monitoring Home Power Consumption for less than $25

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> Some research told me that the power company accomplishes this via a simple radio broadcast on the 900Mhz spectrum. Interesting. Around here (mainland Europe) they're currently installing "smart" meters which do this using CPL rather than radio. > And with one simple command, I was reading the power (and probably water) meters for my entire neighborhood That is a bit troubling from a physical security perspective,…

Dumb question - what's CPL?
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