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Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by narrator »

Except for the Singularity trashing, this talk feels like a rehash of reading your average Reddit political thread. I really wanted more than that. I think the political left viewed dialectical materialism as their futurism and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom. Global warming doom. Hyper-capitalism doom. Race war doom. Overpopulation doom. Evil AI overlord doom. They can't see the future because they don't believe there's going to be one.

I think this is why China has risen so quickly. Their government and their society has a positive view of the future that they are implementing. The west has little in the way of a positive view of the future. It's almost all doom pretty much across the board these days.

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by ZenoArrow »

rimliu wrote: post #10
LeonM wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a reference to WW2

I think this is reference to Greece and its perceotion that Germany is somehow responsible for their irrespondible spending.

The Greek debt crisis was as a result of using public money to bailout private banks. Whether that bailout was irresponsible is a matter for debate.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/banks-are-responsible-for-the-...

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by tjoff »

eksemplar wrote: post #7

There is something interesting about the speed of things in regard to best practices. We've written a lot of code this year, that is likely going to be replaced rather than rewritten, because tech moves forward, which means all the time we've spent on doing it right, so it'll be easy to get into in five years, is essentially wasted. Not that we're going to abandon best practices, because you never know, but it's some…

If the problem isn't trivial doing it right saves time during first implementation as well.

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by fao_ »

narrator wrote: post #11

Except for the Singularity trashing, this talk feels like a rehash of reading your average Reddit political thread. I really wanted more than that. I think the political left viewed dialectical materialism as their futurism and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom. Global warming doom. Hyper-capitalism doom. Race war doom. Overpopulation doom. Evil AI overlord doom. They can't see the fut…

> and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom.

The thing is, communism didn't really exist to fall in the first place, and the most advanced countries (Sweden, Norway, etc.) are all putting in place a mixed socialist/capitalist system.

Also, dialectical materialism didn't necessarily fail just because a set of predictions were made with it didn't come true, it just means that we didn't have the right data, or perhaps we need a new analysis. Not to mention the fact that much of communist writing with regards to capitalist failure is extremely "on point", even today. Indeed, much of it feels like it could have been written yesterday. Dialectical materialism remains a tool of science, however limited it may be, and so should be considered as one.

Also, I think you're mistaking "doom" for "actionable movements". People are actually mobilizing to fix the problem of race (mostly within America, I might add -- while racism is a problem elsewhere, you don't tend to see as much violent resistance to fixing it as you do in the American systems). Just like people are mobilizing to fix Climate Change and much of the problems with uncontrolled late-stage capitalism.

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by PoachedSausage »

narrator wrote: post #11

Except for the Singularity trashing, this talk feels like a rehash of reading your average Reddit political thread. I really wanted more than that. I think the political left viewed dialectical materialism as their futurism and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom. Global warming doom. Hyper-capitalism doom. Race war doom. Overpopulation doom. Evil AI overlord doom. They can't see the fut…

I guess it is the result of younger generations (in the West) discovering they are going to be worse off than their parents in many ways. Whereas China is still on an upward trajectory, for now.

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by digi_owl »

fao_ wrote: post #16
narrator wrote: post #11

Except for the Singularity trashing, this talk feels like a rehash of reading your average Reddit political thread. I really wanted more than that. I think the political left viewed dialectical materialism as their futurism and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom. Global warming doom. Hyper-capitalism doom. Race war doom. Overpopulation doom. Evil AI overlord doom. They can't see the fut…

> and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom. The thing is, communism didn't really exist to fall in the first place, and the most advanced countries (Sweden, Norway, etc.) are all putting in place a mixed socialist/capitalist system. Also, dialectical materialism didn't necessarily fail just because a set of predictions were made with it didn't come true, it just means that we didn't have…

> and the most advanced countries (Sweden, Norway, etc.) are all putting in place a mixed socialist/capitalist system.

Living in one of them it all to often feels like they are rolling back that system.

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by freeflight »

rimliu wrote: post #10
LeonM wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a reference to WW2

I think this is reference to Greece and its perceotion that Germany is somehow responsible for their irrespondible spending.

That's a tad bit oversimplified, not just in terms of what actually happened in Greece, mostly private banks being bailed out [0] but also how that whole situation came about.

There's been a big elephant in the room nobody really wants to talk about for quite a while now: EU's most successful economies running up massive export surpluses, which really hurt the weaker southern economies [1].

In that regard, it's in very bad taste, to just go "Them southern European countries are all just lazy and don't know how to handle money" because nothing about that whole situation is as simple as that. Just like it wasn't a coincidence that Greece crashed on the tails of the 2008 recession. In our globalized world, nothing of this scale happens in a vacuum, but it's just that much more convenient to put all the blame on the people of Greece supposedly just being too "lazy and clueless", as opposed to the "diligent and frugal Germans". As a German, I can assure you: Most Germans are pretty fed up with "being frugal" and not having seen any real wage gains in decades, for the sole purpose of driving this supposedly "economic miracle" of the Germany economy.

Greece was a gigantic shame for the European idea, left out to die, used for IMF austerity experiments while being framed as "lazy people just don't know how to money", even tho it was their misery which boosted Germanys economic standing even further [2].

[0] http://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-went-to-ban...

[1] https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21724810-country-save...

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/08/11/despite-...

Re: Dude, You Broke the Future [video]

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Post by JSONwebtoken »

narrator wrote: post #11

Except for the Singularity trashing, this talk feels like a rehash of reading your average Reddit political thread. I really wanted more than that. I think the political left viewed dialectical materialism as their futurism and now that that's gone with the fall of communism there's just doom. Global warming doom. Hyper-capitalism doom. Race war doom. Overpopulation doom. Evil AI overlord doom. They can't see the fut…

Western Liberals have lower self esteem, a less optimistic outlook, and an overall lower level of satisfaction with life that shapes their world-views [1]. Research indicates that it's not so much that they believe there's not going to be a future, they just don't expect their own futures to get any better and transitively, they are unable to conceive a world that gets better over time.

[1] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656611...

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