It's not a popular opinion but remove the anonymity/fake accounts and you eliminate a very significant portion of these issues.
The Worst Job in Technology: Staring at Human Depravity to Keep It Off Facebook
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#32South Park did an episode on this. Where everyone was so afraid of "reality" they elected someone to censor it all and keep their tweets only positive.
Butters had to see every depraved thing. And he ended up trying to kill himself.
And in the end, when he almost died, they blamed him for failing to be the perfect filter.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Posts on the Internet may be pure data, but that doesn't give support for why they should never be removed. IRL analogy: the dog shit that my neighbor throws onto the sidewalk is pure matter. Just atoms and molecules and such. Should it not be removed? EDIT: Not that I agree with the 100 sacrificial removals for each good one. I don't. But the "pure data" argument doesn't work for me.
If you support bad posts being removed from the internet, do you also support bad text being removed from people's hard drives? What about bad thoughts being removed from people's minds?
Your bizarre, logical, absolutist view of the world is not one the majority of people share. There is a difference between removing the sort of terrible posts that show up on Facebook and thoughts in people's heads. Most people can see the difference. If you can't, I suggest you take some time to consider why other people might see a difference.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
You sound like things are in absolutes, black and white, it’s not. Would you remove child porn off the internet? How about a rape victim’s photos and videos? If you could delete something that would cause people to commit suicide, would you?
Why remove when you can show only to specific audiences, ie. police etc. that can do something more than delete the content.
You can delete it and share the information with the proper authorities. In fact that is probably what's done.
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#35Why are we surprised or shocked? Hasn't society always used servants, police, soldiers, miners, loggers, garbage men, wardens, and such to do tasks that the rest of us are loath to do, and to keep certain stuff away from 'civilised' society? Why would online be different suddenly? Analogues of all the above are needed online too. And somebody who has no other option will be unfortunate enough to fill these roles.
We are not surprised or shocked. This topic was also reported before, and the article is just about not adequate protections of those workers. Someone must do this work, until AI will be able to filter out everything, but those companies are rich enough to take better care of those workers. That's all.
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#36This sort of stuff at one point was handled by hosting providers. It now seems that the internet is "facebook/google" so it is no wonder they are getting the brunt of this sot of work. I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out. 8k post in a day is just too many for one person. Its not about how much work they are doing, its about th…
> Facebook will have 7,500 content reviewers by the end of December, up from 4,500, and it plans to double the number of employees and contractors who handle safety and security issues to 20,000 by the end of 2018. Seems like the bulk of these roles are contract. "$24/hour" was mentioned in the article. Probably no health benefits. Probably no counseling. 251 working days * 8 hours * $24 = $48,192. Less taxes. Less s…
If those content reviewers are subcontracted out to vendors in the Philippines or India, they'll be earning a lot less than $50k/year. The average call center agent in Manila earns under US$4k.
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#37This sort of stuff at one point was handled by hosting providers. It now seems that the internet is "facebook/google" so it is no wonder they are getting the brunt of this sot of work. I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out. 8k post in a day is just too many for one person. Its not about how much work they are doing, its about th…
>I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out.
The police normally rotate staff on and off the analyst post every few months.
I was speaking to a detective, saying I was interested in going into digital forensics, and he just plainly said "no, you don't want to do that". He said he knew he'd spent too long on the job when he was walking through a park, saw a father playing with his daughter, and instead of thinking "aww" thought "you sick fucker".
I have, in the course of my career, come across child abuse content. Personally it didn't really bother me - I just didn't think about it and got on with the job of notifying the police, but I can easily see how being exposed to that sort of thing day in day out would really mess with someone's head.
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#38This sort of stuff at one point was handled by hosting providers. It now seems that the internet is "facebook/google" so it is no wonder they are getting the brunt of this sot of work. I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out. 8k post in a day is just too many for one person. Its not about how much work they are doing, its about th…
> However on the internet with regards to what normally amounts to pointless shit that people post on the internet. I am okay with 100 good post being automatically removed it if means 1 bad post is also removed. If you don't like Internet then just get off it! You probably never noticed, but some people have this thing called self-actualization. By removing good posts you step on it with your greasy foot. By removin…
>By removing controversial posts you also step on it.
We're not talking about "controversial posts" here. It's perfectly legal to be a Nazi, even if Facebook might prefer you not be a Nazi on their platform.
This is about child abuse material. In no way is that being illegal "controversial".
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#39It starts censoring topics that are illegal, then topics that aren't family friendly and finally, it will end censoring point of view and free speech.
Its 1984 all over.
Im not an anarchist however, if something is illegal then go ahead and cut it but, censoring without a legal cause is a crime.
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#40This sort of stuff at one point was handled by hosting providers. It now seems that the internet is "facebook/google" so it is no wonder they are getting the brunt of this sot of work. I can tell you back in the day when I worked for Rackshack I never envied the abuse department. They always looked stressed out. 8k post in a day is just too many for one person. Its not about how much work they are doing, its about th…
> Its not about how much work they are doing, its about the content they are subjected to look at and review.
If you'd like to experience this, you can make an experiment yourself. If you're a Twitter/Facebook user, look for a group/account you know will have unacceptable content (it's easy, search for white genocide or similar - there's always something available). Then try to find some things that are actually reportable without the need to explain the reason in more than a few words.
After you find 10, you'll likely find it's mentally exhausting to deal with it / look at that content anymore. On the up side, you'll likely report and remove some amounts.