Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
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Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
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Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#2For Christ’s sake, sue him if you want to get justice.
I sympathize with those who suffer injustice but if you haven’t sued him and won in court, even that much is unclear.
It is disgusting and deplorable that you are trying to drag unrelated “enablers” into this. Your problems are your own. Nobody owes you anything.
Get a lawyer and sue him. I’d be happy for you if you won.
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#3Hmmm...I see an allegation of rape, which is a serious criminal allegation. This is not for a ‘community’ or conference organizers to adjudicate, we have the criminal justice system for this: the police, the courts etc.
Conversely, a false accusation is also a serious crime. This is simply not a matter to be resolved in public by defamation. Leave it to the courts.
Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#4Hmmm...I see an allegation of rape, which is a serious criminal allegation. This is not for a ‘community’ or conference organizers to adjudicate, we have the criminal justice system for this: the police, the courts etc. Conversely, a false accusation is also a serious crime. This is simply not a matter to be resolved in public by defamation. Leave it to the courts.
Chelsea addressed this in her post if you had read it.
"I have worked with legal counsel throughout this entire process. I have strongly considered the idea of seeking criminal charges in Germany against Jacob, but initiating lengthy legal proceedings in another country which I am neither a citizen nor a resident is a significant barrier for me. That said, I would gladly discuss this with any interested German authority and would be willing to testify in any court of law about this crime without hesitation."
Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#5Hmmm...I see an allegation of rape, which is a serious criminal allegation. This is not for a ‘community’ or conference organizers to adjudicate, we have the criminal justice system for this: the police, the courts etc. Conversely, a false accusation is also a serious crime. This is simply not a matter to be resolved in public by defamation. Leave it to the courts.
Chelsea addressed this in her post if you had read it. "I have worked with legal counsel throughout this entire process. I have strongly considered the idea of seeking criminal charges in Germany against Jacob, but initiating lengthy legal proceedings in another country which I am neither a citizen nor a resident is a significant barrier for me. That said, I would gladly discuss this with any interested German author…
That’s not addressing it. At all.
Rape is serious crime. It is therefore an ‘Offizialdelikt’, which means that it must be prosecuted if the Staatsanwaltschaft knows about it, and once they know about it, it becomes their case.
Not pursuing this through the criminal justice system because you can’t be bothered, but instead resorting to public defamation instead is at best fishy, because in the context of an Offizialdelikt, the distinction she draws doesn’t make sense.
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#6This public shaming without any police report is really troubling. A woman can totally derange a mans life with zero evidence. Either you feel you have been violated, and then you go to the police, or you keep it to yourself.
This "trial by twitter" that's going on at the moment is disgusting. A person is supposed to be presumed innocent, and then the alleged victim has his or her day in court. With this, the alleged perpetrator is assumed guilty, and he doesn't get a day in court.
She writes: "I thought Jacob was a friend and engaged in consensual sexual relations with him during those three days. It took me five months to process and understand that Jacob had violated my trust and my body."
I'm sorry, that's not rape. If you give consent, you can't take it back months after the fact. How is a guy supposed to know what will happen months into the future? By this standard, any male can without knowing he has violated a girl suddenly be accused of rape on fucking twitter or medium? WTF?
Hopefully, there's more to her story than that text. What I can read, is that she didn't do a police report, but instead tries to destroy the guys life without any trial, she just decided that he is guilty. From that, it seems like she has put pressure on conferences, his PhD advisors and organizations to destroy him.
She assumes no personal responsibility, it's always the guys fault. She writes that he "pushed his sexual agenda" multiple times. Why the fuck did she not just walk away? That's not victim shaming, since I'm not saying she deserved to be "raped", I'm just saying she put herself in a stupid situation, and taking zero responsibility. Swap the genders of that text, and no-one would bat an eye.
Seriously, at this point, why would any man have anything to do with women, workplace or otherwise? Look at this story, she calls men that are interested in women for "sexual predators"? How is a future husband and wife supposed to meet?
Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#7> I thought Jacob was a friend and engaged in consensual sexual relations with him during those three days.
Anything else to the story?
Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#8"I thought Jacob was a friend and engaged in consensual sexual relations with him during those three days. It took me five months to process and understand that Jacob had violated my trust and my body. It is common for victims of rape to take months, if not years, to come to terms with this, particularly if the abuser is one in a position of trust to them."
What the actual fuck? This is insanity. I don't care for a throwaway account, I'm happy to put my name to this comment.
Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#9> I thought Jacob was a friend and engaged in consensual sexual relations with him during those three days. Anything else to the story?
Well, no.
Or, maybe yes. She seems to be saying that she is not capable of giving consent, meaning that she is the legal equivalent of a child. Odd, but that is apparently where modern day so-called feminism is going. Seems more like anti-feminism to me, quite frankly. Odd.
Re: Jacob Appelbaum Accused of Rape
#10"I thought Jacob was a friend and engaged in consensual sexual relations with him during those three days. It took me five months to process and understand that Jacob had violated my trust and my body. It is common for victims of rape to take months, if not years, to come to terms with this, particularly if the abuser is one in a position of trust to them." What the actual fuck? This is insanity. I don't care for a t…
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