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A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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International English. Supposably, Americans could care less that other English-speaking countries are closer to en-GB than en-US, despite the relentless onslaught of inconsiderate software defaults.

supposedly ;) Sorry... being slightly facetious :)

I think supposably is a valid word and makes sense in this context.

The meaning overlaps a lot with supposedly, which is much more-commonly used, so it sounds a bit odd.

Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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How can you "kill" something that constantly evolves? A hundred years ago modern-day "britishisms" would be viewed as "killing the English language". Also, what's "British English"? These two are British English: - received pronunciation with it's "proper English": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIemPxHSb6Q - Glasgoans (??) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_uNGdpa4c with "bubblin' and greetin'" and other weird stuf…

Of course, but anyone who loves the English language will cut the British some slack here.

Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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> I think I just hurt my eyes from rolling them so far back in my head. Cultures in contact with each other share words. It goes both ways. Not really, it goes mostly from the direction of the stronger nations to the less strong in the relationship. And cultures and languages do die out in such processes. Now, some might find all this inconsequential, but for some of us those things means something (and the fact that…

strawman! those aren't necessarily the same people. Edit: But even though, a bit of cognitive dissonance is part of the learning process. I think you are pointing out a true correlation. which is, often times its enough to be popular or just shout the loudest to attract attention, and everything else might follow.

>strawman! those aren't necessarily the same people.

Well, isn't that a strawman too? Seeing that, I didn't say those are "necessarily" the same people -- just that "some people" hold both opinions simultaneously.

Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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This is interesting to me. I had to deal recently with a service desk in America, and they were as unhelpful as any other. But they dressed up all of their comments with a dose of 'Thank you for calling sir, is there anything else I can help you with, have a nice day.' It was as if they felt that being sickeningly polite was a good substitute for resolving my issue.

From an American's POV anything less would probably be considered an additional rudeness. Every culture makes a public/private distinction and has different social conventions in each. For example, sarcastic/ironic/cutting humour is mostly a private-space thing in america -- whereas in the UK it's common to both. I'd say this is related to their deep sense that public spaces should be friendly-distant. For this reaso…

> PS. I've just had another thought about that. One of the issues we have in the UK at the moment is the importation of a strange kind of political correctness where you mustn't joke about stereotypes etc. (which is a particularly european thing: to joke about each other's culture -- this tends to feel connecting to europeans).

This maybe due to the physical boundaries of Europe, that it's no insult to comment on another's "otherness" when they are traditionally (and a probably self-acknowledged) outsider. In the US, we're all stewing in the same pot with a more than a dash of (at least historical) racism and bigotry, so (negatively) emphasizing differences goes against our cultural mythology.

I can assure you, Americans have no difficulty with ridiculous caricatures of sterotypical British/French/German/Italian/etc behaviours.

Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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supposedly ;) Sorry... being slightly facetious :)

I think supposably is a valid word and makes sense in this context. The meaning overlaps a lot with supposedly, which is much more-commonly used, so it sounds a bit odd.

I hope that you, too are being sarcastic. The meaning doesn't overlap, it's the same word, mispronounced.

Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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International English. Supposably, Americans could care less that other English-speaking countries are closer to en-GB than en-US, despite the relentless onslaught of inconsiderate software defaults.

supposedly ;) Sorry... being slightly facetious :)

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Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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Let's see how this turns out over the next decade or so. Both the US and the UK have and are slowly withdrawing from the world stage, making English less and less important. Without the UK in the EU, for example, why would English need to remain the common language when German is the most spoken language in Europe?

"Both the US and the UK have and are slowly withdrawing from the world stage..." What a crock...

Leaving the EU isn't a withdrawal? Can you elaborate a little more eloquently?

Re: A book claims that Americanisms will have absorbed the English language by 2120

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International English. Supposably, Americans could care less that other English-speaking countries are closer to en-GB than en-US, despite the relentless onslaught of inconsiderate software defaults.

> Americans could care less So they do care?

Only the ones that care about English, generally.
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