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Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

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What you did is the text book definition of an ad hominem attack: undermining someone's argument by attacking their character instead of addressing what they said.

Today I learned: Asking someone their age is equivalent to doing an ad hominem attack.

> How old are you?

Is fine.

> How old are you? Let me just guess; not old enough to have experienced living/working in tech while Bill was doing his thing

Is an ad hominem attack.

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

#72

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> the freshly installed system boots up in about 30 seconds, including the BIOS doing its thing. Honest question/clarification, is that... considered fast? My DOS system used to boot that fast. A C64 is almost instant. And my old ~2013 Chromebook boots in ~7 seconds into Linux with an eMMC drive (slower than an SSD but still fairly fast). It's only got 2 GB of RAM so when it hits swap it'll bog to a standstill so it'…

I don't understand modern swap. Ok you can page out a few MB you don't use on a regular basis, but any swapping kills the machine. I'd far rather OOMkiller killed off non active tabs (there's almost always a web browser using the memory on a desktop), or run away apache processses, than try to swap. For that reason I never configure swap on any of my machines.

My experience has been that if the usage grows slowly and the system is instructed to actually load stuff to swap I can safely go to the limits of my swap and physical ram space without any freezes and nothing dying (although ofc taking more time, but the alternative is not using the software at all).

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

#73

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Today I learned: Asking someone their age is equivalent to doing an ad hominem attack.

> How old are you? Is fine. > How old are you? Let me just guess; not old enough to have experienced living/working in tech while Bill was doing his thing Is an ad hominem attack.

How about this for an attack? What is your current connection to the Microsoft ecosystem?

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

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post #50

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How old are you? Let me just guess; not old enough to have experienced living/working in tech while Bill was doing his thing. Did you ever pause to consider how much humanity would have progressed without him stopping so much progress in the first place? (I deleted a section on the malaria stuff; I misread your comment slightly at first.)

The main thing I remember from the era of Gates Is Literally Satan was the browser wars, and how awful it was that Internet Explorer was both free and tightly integrated into the operating system. #cough# Safari on Apple devices #cough# Chrome on Android and ChromeOS devices

That was at very end of the Gates era.

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

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> (he's done lots of very carefully managed AMAs) You seem to have a pretty prominent chip on your shoulder regarding Bill Gates. Gates has donated billions of dollars of his fortune to charity and he's largely credited for having eradicated malaria through these efforts in multiple countries. It's hard to find a good reason to dislike someone like that.

How old are you? Let me just guess; not old enough to have experienced living/working in tech while Bill was doing his thing. Did you ever pause to consider how much humanity would have progressed without him stopping so much progress in the first place? (I deleted a section on the malaria stuff; I misread your comment slightly at first.)

Hello, I have also lost karma points on this subject. I also feel that Microsoft had a very negative effect on the progress of computer science during many years but it is very difficult to convince other generations. There were many positive and negative effects. To grasp the global effect, you need to have lived all the progress of the previous years before Microsoft and you need to have followed all the commercials fights to eradicate concurrence (dr dos, stacker, borland c++, ...).

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

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As for the alleged Bill Gates quote, I read somewhere (Deep C Secrets by Peer van der Linden, I think, but I am too lazy to look it up), that "640k ought to be enough for anyone" did not mean that it was enough for anyone for all times. I am not a fan of Bill Gates, but he is not stupid. And at the time he - allegedly - said it, 640k of RAM was (for a single user!) was indeed a lot! Compare that to the 64k of the C64…

> the freshly installed system boots up in about 30 seconds, including the BIOS doing its thing. Honest question/clarification, is that... considered fast? My DOS system used to boot that fast. A C64 is almost instant. And my old ~2013 Chromebook boots in ~7 seconds into Linux with an eMMC drive (slower than an SSD but still fairly fast). It's only got 2 GB of RAM so when it hits swap it'll bog to a standstill so it'…

The Commodore 64 Kernal is in a ROM so it is a fast boot for the OS, but the 1541 floppy drive is slow unless you use Fastload or Jiffydos, etc.

I think some C64 units had a spare socket for GEOS the GUI made for the C64.

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

#78

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> How old are you? Is fine. > How old are you? Let me just guess; not old enough to have experienced living/working in tech while Bill was doing his thing Is an ad hominem attack.

How about this for an attack? What is your current connection to the Microsoft ecosystem?

None besides occasionally using a Windows laptop.

I know you're struggling to find hidden reasons that could lead someone to not despise Bill Gates, but you're wasting your time.

The man is saving millions of lives with his fortune, just deal with it and the reality that he might not be as evil as you want him to be.

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

#79

I love the idea that there's still an active community developing for old hardware. Specially on videogames since many times they apply modern design ideas in very old hardware. As a dumb example I saw a platformer for the ZX spectrum not long ago, where the falling speed was not linear but accelerated, which may seem trivial now but back then was something really unusual and I didn't realized how big was the differe…

There are new games coming out for the Atari 2600 just about every three months. And a guy in Texas recently released a very interesting looking Ultima IV-style game for the Commodore 64.

There is an ARM based 2600 cart to make games for the 2600 better.

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28171

I think they can buy the ROM and put it on the Harmony cart Sdcard and it will play.

There seems to be new games that can't afford to burn a ROM and ship a cartridge so they use this cart instead to download ROM images to it.

Re: 640k Really Is Enough for Anyone

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How old are you? Let me just guess; not old enough to have experienced living/working in tech while Bill was doing his thing. Did you ever pause to consider how much humanity would have progressed without him stopping so much progress in the first place? (I deleted a section on the malaria stuff; I misread your comment slightly at first.)

Hello, I have also lost karma points on this subject. I also feel that Microsoft had a very negative effect on the progress of computer science during many years but it is very difficult to convince other generations. There were many positive and negative effects. To grasp the global effect, you need to have lived all the progress of the previous years before Microsoft and you need to have followed all the commercial…

Hi.

It does illustrate the power of the combination of time and lots of money. You can literally alter truths.

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