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Review: Copperhead OS

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Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#21
Reviewer touts "security focused" OS, promptly disables "trusted sources" check for installed software.

Turn it back on, sure, until the next time you want an APK that's not listed in F-Droid. Seems like a bad idea. How about writing to your favorite app developers and asking them to list on F-Droid instead of sideloading?

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#22
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use that but it's all Google based. Not sure if you can decouple it from Play Services without breaking everything.

LineageOS runs fine without Play Services. It's actually the default mode. It just limits your app choices. My needs are simple so I don't really mind, and I appreciate the improved battery life and speed. It turns out many apps from the Play Store don't actually have a hard dependency on Play Services. Example: Slack works, except for notifications and (IIRC) receiving calls, which is good enough if you don't need t…

I should try it without installing Gapps. I just do the install routinely.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#24

> do think it will happen, however. The use case involves corporations, especially those involved in privacy sensitive fields such as health care. Wouldn’t it be cool to have a locked down “business” VM that is separate from a “personal” VM with your Facebook, games and private stuff on it. This already exists for businesses with Samsung Knox / Android for Business. No it's not a full OS but it fits all of their need…

I'm a big fan of the "Island" app [0], which lets you set up a locally-administered Android for Work profile. It's great for, say, cloning a second copy of a messaging app for an alternate account. [0] https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/closed-b...

Interesting. A step beyond Xposed and Xprivacy.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#25

> do think it will happen, however. The use case involves corporations, especially those involved in privacy sensitive fields such as health care. Wouldn’t it be cool to have a locked down “business” VM that is separate from a “personal” VM with your Facebook, games and private stuff on it. This already exists for businesses with Samsung Knox / Android for Business. No it's not a full OS but it fits all of their need…

> Having one OS in a "vm" on a phone sounds horrible UX wise

I believe most android people are doing this with users.

Since Android is now up to the task of docker (kernel 3.10+), it would be very nice to see apps sandboxed with permissions exposed via networked APIs.

Then it is impossible for an app (sans exploit) to access private data, and simple for the OS to route certain apps to certain data sets (ie, fake contacts for apps that shouldn't need your damn contact to begin with).

CyanogenMod accomplished some of this through various methods, but they were detectable. If you build it this way, it should be entirely undetectable.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#26
Sometimes I am wondering what Google employees think when they read headlines like this one. I mean they probably have no problem giving the personal data to Google, but at the same time many of them are probably open source proponents and would support a world where the Google services would be entirely optional to Android.

A few days ago I was thinking about a new smartphone and because my main problem with my current android is the outdated kernel and driver setup, I was searching for smartphone with open source drivers. Wikipedia tells us since the start of the Smartphone era about 22 phones had open source drivers (with the exception of the proprietary baseband firmware):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_pho...

Doesn't look like something where you can select the hardware specifications you prefer. So I feel a little lost.

In general, I like Android but for my taste the Google services are too intrusive. Uploading my data before I had a chance to deactivate it is just unacceptable. Asking me every day to add photos to Maps sucks too. I can accept giving some of my information to Google to improve the product, but lately Google feels like the data mooch on my smartphone...

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#27

why that Name in particular did they not know its provenance in English :-) it was what a proslavery northerner was called aka Traitors.

That is not the provenance (origin) of copperhead, it is another meaning of the word though.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/copperhead

The first known use of the word "copperhead" was in 1775, well before the US civil war.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#28
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use that but it's all Google based. Not sure if you can decouple it from Play Services without breaking everything.

LineageOS runs fine without Play Services. It's actually the default mode. It just limits your app choices. My needs are simple so I don't really mind, and I appreciate the improved battery life and speed. It turns out many apps from the Play Store don't actually have a hard dependency on Play Services. Example: Slack works, except for notifications and (IIRC) receiving calls, which is good enough if you don't need t…

"me too"

I run LineageOS v13 now (Galaxy Nexus), and before that Cyanogenmod back to v7 (maybe v6 not sure) and have never had Gapps installed, its been F-Droid all the way. I guess that means I can't appreciate the improved battery life or speed..

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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post #26

Sometimes I am wondering what Google employees think when they read headlines like this one. I mean they probably have no problem giving the personal data to Google, but at the same time many of them are probably open source proponents and would support a world where the Google services would be entirely optional to Android. A few days ago I was thinking about a new smartphone and because my main problem with my curr…

Google services are entirely optional to Android. See AOSP. This criticism appears often on HN, despite how little sense it makes. If you don't like the data that Google Maps collects, simply use another map application. I delete all the useless Google apps off my phone as soon as I get it and keep only the ones that are actually useful.
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