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Concussion doctor says he found CTE in living NFL player

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Re: Concussion doctor says he found CTE in living NFL player

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The thing is that both activities were always clearly likely to be harmful, if you took a step back from the cultural perspective that accepted them so thoroughly. Smoking tobacco is inhaling an acrid a mix of chemicals that makes you cough, kind of feel sick and lightheaded, smells awful and leaves a tan stain - it’s not hard to guess that it’s not healthy. Remember that half of people who die from tobacco die from…

"Both activities were always clearly likely to be harmful". With the benefit of 70 years of medical research this is an easy statement to make, but at the time this was far less clear - smoking was for a long time actively promoted as having health benefits [1][2] It's easy from a modern perspective to look back and apply our accumulated wisdom, but it was not self-evident that smoking was necessarily bad. Otherwise…

It's true that smoking was promoted as healthful by parties with a financial interest. By clearly harmful, I mean that the indicators I listed should inform one's common sense that it is likely to be harmful, because physical senses perceive many things about tobacco smoke as unpleasant.

For example, lore is replete with stories of young people's initial experiences with smoking involving coughing, choking, turning green and feeling nauseous or vomiting. There's also the fact that nicotine has long been known to be a poison as strong as cyanide, and has been used for insect control by Europeans as far back as 1763.

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> The most impressive athletes in any sport in the world are in the NFL If you're going make such outrageous claims at least give some explanation? How do you measure how impressive an athlete is?

Context-neutral speed, strength, power metrics would all go to NFL players if you had a worldwide combine of running/jumping/lifting/etc. It would be laughable. See my bio if you think this opinion is subjective.

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Re: Concussion doctor says he found CTE in living NFL player

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is that both activities were always clearly likely to be harmful, if you took a step back from the cultural perspective that accepted them so thoroughly. Smoking tobacco is inhaling an acrid a mix of chemicals that makes you cough, kind of feel sick and lightheaded, smells awful and leaves a tan stain - it’s not hard to guess that it’s not healthy. Remember that half of people who die from tobacco die from…

"Both activities were always clearly likely to be harmful". With the benefit of 70 years of medical research this is an easy statement to make, but at the time this was far less clear - smoking was for a long time actively promoted as having health benefits [1][2] It's easy from a modern perspective to look back and apply our accumulated wisdom, but it was not self-evident that smoking was necessarily bad. Otherwise…

We had similar problems with football over 110 years ago.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/teddy-roosev...

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> OBJ's "The Catch" is one of the most impressive things in the history of sports period. As someone not familiar with football (not from the US), can someone explain to me what makes this catch particularly impressive? Is it the speed (difficult to assess from a video)?

I'm not very familiar with football either, but I can say that OP is heavily exaggerating and probably not familiar with sports history at all. Heck, I'm not huge sports fan, I can come up with half a dozen more impressive feats in sport off the top of my head. * Beamon's long jump record in 1968 Olympics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEt_Xgg8dzc * Maradona's goal of the century: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w…

If you think snooker has even the slightest resemblance to chess then you have never played snooker or chess seriously.

Re: Concussion doctor says he found CTE in living NFL player

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Both activities were always clearly likely to be harmful". With the benefit of 70 years of medical research this is an easy statement to make, but at the time this was far less clear - smoking was for a long time actively promoted as having health benefits [1][2] It's easy from a modern perspective to look back and apply our accumulated wisdom, but it was not self-evident that smoking was necessarily bad. Otherwise…

It's true that smoking was promoted as healthful by parties with a financial interest. By clearly harmful, I mean that the indicators I listed should inform one's common sense that it is likely to be harmful, because physical senses perceive many things about tobacco smoke as unpleasant. For example, lore is replete with stories of young people's initial experiences with smoking involving coughing, choking, turning g…

The same can be said for exercising: you’re out of breath, your heart is racing, you can get dizzy and nauseous, you’re covered in sweat, and the next day all your muscles are aching. Surely, such an activity can’t be healthy!

Of course after the first few sessions you’ll start to get used to it, and actually feel better after exercising. Just like how you feel better after smoking once you’re addicted.

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I didn't grow up playing or really understanding sports. I was one of those guys who joked about "sportsball" and stuff like that. When I started really taking weight training seriously I started having a frame of reference for understanding sports and started really appreciating them. Football is a sport that is designed to really allow people to showcase the limits of the human body. The most impressive athletes in…

I will see your 50 MPH catch and raise you 100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX8EQXMtX8w While OBJ's was impressive, I have seen even more crazy catches in Cricket and Baseball!

Funny thing when I thought of fantastic catches the first thing I thought about the first catch in that video of yours. I remembering seeing that live and I think that was the first time in cricket history someone consciously did that double step catch. It seems in recent days (I haven't followed much lately) that thing has become a lot more common even two players in tandem doing it. It's so interesting that once you know something's possible a lot more people can do it. But yeah that first one was special at points, both the reflex and the speed of thought to find a way to do this that never been done before. I think he single handedly raised the level of fielding in cricket by showing what's possible and that it can truly be a game changer in terms of producing result.

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"The most impressive athletes in any sport in the world are in the NFL" What a ridiculous statement to make! Even probabilistically this makes no sense, since the players are selected out of 3e8 out of 7e9 humans. Check out socker players, marathon runners, climbers etc and you will see that every sport has their very own geniuses.

That depends on what the metrics are that make up "impressive" in this context. Since those are entirely subjective (I may be impressed by an athlete's endurance, but the author may be impressed by physical strength, etc) the quoted statement is meaningless anyway.

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post #54

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> this is a kinda modern equivalent, imo.. Nah, the modern equivalent is sugar. Most people don't do enough sports to suffer from it (except for broken bones etc.)

re:sugar - true that!!! generations of fucked up neuroendocrinological functioning.. is very bad.. and yet many people will dismiss "low carb is just a fad"

Sugar != Carbohydrates

Talking about sugar will make many enemies. For example, the dairy industry. Or worse, fruit-farming. How do we convince people their smoothie is actively bad for health?

Because at the end of the day, we don't know for sure. There are of course, some benefits to eating fruits. There are also likely downsides as well.

I don't want to poop on keto but I suspect a lot of people can't follow it through and even if they could, I don't know if it is good for them.

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More importantly "110 of the 111 brains of former NFL players examined had CTE". So how stupid can you be? In a healthy society this sport would be forbidden by law.

> In a healthy society this sport would be forbidden by law. Give me a break. Are we going to ban football at home, too? Or just at school? What about community leagues? In a healthy society, the dangers would be well-known, minors would always have a right to refuse and forcing a minor to play would be considered child abuse, and children would have to be old enough to form rational opinions before being eligible fo…

It has. Compare to healthy societies.

Re: Concussion doctor says he found CTE in living NFL player

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post #78

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Your premise is wrong. It sounds as if it should be right, but the framing is awry The players are not really aware of the health risks, furthermore they are young and foolish and impressionable and are following the path of glamour which has been sold to them as youngsters. The sports organization is aware of the risks and are using the players to make vast sums for themselves, they are pushing the glamourous path a…

>The players are not really aware of the health risks, furthermore they are young and foolish and impressionable and are following the path of glamour which has been sold to them as youngsters. I think a great deal of them would still choose to play despite knowing the risks. There are likely neighborhoods where people raise families that are less safe than playing in the NFL. And I'm sorry, but 25 year olds are not…

And 17-18 yo is the age of accepting a football scholarship to an NCAA school.
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