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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by valuearb »

nofilter wrote: post #144
mschuster91 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Users don't have to upgrade to touchbar MBPs They have, if they want anything comparable in performance to the Windows world (even though 16GB RAM tops is just laughable when there are many 64GB laptops in the Windows world, and I guess 128GB is not far around the corner...).

This reminds me of how OnePlus 5 (Android) sticks 8gb of ram in it, and is as fast as iPhone 7 which has 2gb of ram. Specs don't mean shit if the software that utilizes the hardware is crap.

This reminds me that the iPhone 7 crushes the OnePlus 5 in benchmarks, while using only a quarter of the ram.

https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/44

https://browser.geekbench.com/android_devices/383

and even though OnePlus has been caught cheating benchmark tests more than once!

https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5-benchmark-cheating-...

https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-manipulates-bench...

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by mitchty »

christoph wrote: post #11
jarym wrote: post #4

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Have to agree, my biggest concern for putting it off was APFS so I waited until no one complained about it for long enough thinking 'everything else should still be ok' - big mistake. Stay away until Schiller praises the 'stability' release at 2018 Developer Conference.

I think it’s APFS that’s the cause of my biggest frustration, but I’ve not seen anyone else complain about. I normally run with about 50gb free space. After three to four days, I’m normally down to about 3gb and nothing will get it to show back up, other than a reboot. I’ve even run a test which supports this - downloaded 35gb of files, deleted them and emptied the trash. Same thing... space is missing till I reboot.

I can't replicate this on apfs at all, though I've also about 10x as much free space. Rather not write out 500GiB of data to try replicating.

    $ df -k /; dd if=

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by valuearb »

akulbe wrote: post #113
valuearb wrote: post #112

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How many million users does High Sierra have?

You're missing the point again, completely. Your experience does not negate that of all the other folks who are reporting issues.

You keep swinging and missing. My great experience with High Sierra doesn't negate others negative experiences, but they are both just anecdotal evidence and not meaningful measures.

700 users who suffer from problems are super motivated to speak up, millions of users having a great experience have no reason to create and post on lengthy threads about how great High Sierra is.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by chapium »

ohthehugemanate wrote: post #61

Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out wit…

Great support for terminal, low amounts of notifications, and good peripheral support are mostly why I enjoy OS X. Cloud based alternatives to their built in apps are vastly better.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by FanaHOVA »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #53
sarreph wrote: post #49

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Don't even talk to me about iOS 11... Upgraded from a (somewhat sluggish, but usable) 5S on iOS 10, to a new iPhone 8 on iOS 11... The snappiness in apps is all there (which is what I wanted), but man the bugs! One of my current gripes is that I can only be 80% sure a photo I'm taking will save to camera-roll... I thought I'd lost all of my videos from Christmas Day morning until they spontaneously appeared 10 minute…

Interesting, I haven’t noticed any major issues with my iPhone 8.

Same with an 8+, switched from a 6, so much better.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by maxxxxx »

christoph wrote: post #11
jarym wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have to agree, my biggest concern for putting it off was APFS so I waited until no one complained about it for long enough thinking 'everything else should still be ok' - big mistake. Stay away until Schiller praises the 'stability' release at 2018 Developer Conference.

I think it’s APFS that’s the cause of my biggest frustration, but I’ve not seen anyone else complain about. I normally run with about 50gb free space. After three to four days, I’m normally down to about 3gb and nothing will get it to show back up, other than a reboot. I’ve even run a test which supports this - downloaded 35gb of files, deleted them and emptied the trash. Same thing... space is missing till I reboot.

They totally have f...ed up the free space indicators. It used it be that when I deleted things the indicator reflected it exactly. Now my indicator goes from 150 to 220 GB up and down for no apparent reason. I really have no idea how much free space I have exactly.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by jroseattle »

baggachipz wrote: post #3

Despite the daily nag messages, I still haven't "upgraded" to High Sierra yet because I've heard nothing but bad things about it from friends and coworkers. What does it bring to the table besides headaches?

I've had one engineer upgrade his work mac to high sierra. Failure, full stop.

We've warned every other engineer not to apply the high sierra OS update until further notice.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by [deleted] »

ohthehugemanate wrote: post #61

Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out wit…

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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by abecedarius »

reacharavindh wrote: post #59

Not so long ago, I use to justify to myself that: * Mac is good hardware and software I can count on. Just pay and focus on your real job. * Apple cares about privacy very publicly, so they are probably not selling my data or doing anything stupid with it. Although, there is no way for me to know. * My work is buying the hardware for me. Why bother spending time building one that I need to maintain so much. Get the o…

In that vein, I'm thinking of ordering a Purism laptop. Anyone care to post how you like it? The last big thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15510428 didn't get much in the way of actual experiences reported.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by dunham »

daBewt wrote: post #7

I had this issue a lot _before_ upgrading to High Sierra. In my case I did a clean install of my Mac and then installed High Sierra. The issue then went from happening 3-4 times per day to about 3-4 time per week. I suspect this (at least in my case) having a lot more to with the new Macbook Pro with Touch Bar than macOS. In any case, apple should do better

There have been some reports that this is related to the graphics drivers. I don't know an easy way to disable the nvidia card, but perhaps disabling graphics switching in settings (so it always uses the fancy card) might help?

The only issue I've had on my 2013 MBP is a black screen if I plug in an external monitor while it's asleep.

Aside from that, it's been running fine. But I typically run it always plugged in to external monitor and some sources on the internet suggest that the secondary card is needed to run display port.

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