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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

ninkendo wrote: post #90
baggachipz wrote: post #3

Despite the daily nag messages, I still haven't "upgraded" to High Sierra yet because I've heard nothing but bad things about it from friends and coworkers. What does it bring to the table besides headaches?

It’s... fine? Honestly I’ve upgraded on day 1 on every OSX release since lion, the only complaint I really have about High Sierra is that it doesn’t really change anything. I can’t even name one thing off the top of my head that changed since Sierra, and I use almost every built-in app (Mail, iTunes, Calendar, Safari, Terminal.) Safari has some new things (global and per-site reader view, disabling autoplay, privacy…

I usually wait a few weeks, but had to upgrade this time for the XCode update and News Preview sim plugin and I had the same experience—even on both an 13" 2013 MBP and 15" 2015 MBP. No problems, but no noticeable changes, really. Except for the font... I use Notes as well and I guess I like the new features, but I hope it doesn't go much further.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by loopbit »

ninkendo wrote: post #90
baggachipz wrote: post #3

Despite the daily nag messages, I still haven't "upgraded" to High Sierra yet because I've heard nothing but bad things about it from friends and coworkers. What does it bring to the table besides headaches?

It’s... fine? Honestly I’ve upgraded on day 1 on every OSX release since lion, the only complaint I really have about High Sierra is that it doesn’t really change anything. I can’t even name one thing off the top of my head that changed since Sierra, and I use almost every built-in app (Mail, iTunes, Calendar, Safari, Terminal.) Safari has some new things (global and per-site reader view, disabling autoplay, privacy…

You might, I have a mac mini that has run fine since day one of the high sierra update. However, my rMBP has had several freezes (at least once a month) and a few graphical glitches (had to do a hard reboot after every instance).

Both were updated at the same time. I keep my work laptop (another rMBP) on Sierra and I might just skip updating that one altogether.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

#103

Post by blowski »

dchuk wrote: post #99
ohthehugemanate wrote: post #61

Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out wit…

Anecdotally, I've been running High Sierra Betas for a few months now and have experienced zero issues. I'm also a die hard apple fan that uses all of the built in apps except for Music (I prefer Spotify). One data point.

Similar to me, except I'm not quite a die-hard fan. None of their software is perfect, but it's good enough when compared with the alternatives.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

#104

Post by valuearb »

goldmouth wrote: post #25
valuearb wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2015 MBP, no problems either

2017, VMware fusion causes mine to constantly freeze.

Well, i think you’ve identified the problem. I consider vmware fusion skin to a virus and would delete it the moment my employer allowed.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by jaequery »

after i upgraded, i see its sluggish and slower. i have 2013 mbp and upgraded to high sierra last week. it used to be snappy fast before but now even just on chrome i see sometimes it gets sluggish and choppy. i am frustrated i upgraded. anyone in the same boat as me?

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

#106

Post by pecg »

reacharavindh wrote: post #59

Not so long ago, I use to justify to myself that: * Mac is good hardware and software I can count on. Just pay and focus on your real job. * Apple cares about privacy very publicly, so they are probably not selling my data or doing anything stupid with it. Although, there is no way for me to know. * My work is buying the hardware for me. Why bother spending time building one that I need to maintain so much. Get the o…

Long time voidlinux user here on a laptop, and have also used extensibly: archlinux, gentoo, openbsd (it hosts and smtp, and web server public on the internet), freebsd, alpine and slackware-current. From void you should expect many things to be different:

* No launchd or systemd mess. Runit takes care of the init process.

* xbps: a fast and simple package management software, that also resolves dependencies.

* Clean but scarse documentation, if you have used other distributions you should be fine.

* No automatic configuration of programs, you have to explicitly define what you want for sshd, nginx, etc.

I started GNU/Linux distribution hopping after archlinux's maintainers decided to migrate to systemd, back then I had been using it without problems and for experimentation purposes followed the migration; after a couple of updates I had an unbootable system were systemd wasn't able to run logind, diagnosis showed all files where in place, but run out of time and didn't want to discover what was wrong with it.

I use voidlinux on a T410s mainly for developing, learning programming languages and experiment from time to time with KVM and libvirt (which is another mess), hope to change completely to openbsd in a couple of months.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

#107

Post by yodsanklai »

ohthehugemanate wrote: post #61

Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out wit…

> Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated.

I'm not a "die hard apple fan" (just a long time mac user), and I have no problems with most of their apps. Overall, I'm still very satisfied with my MBP.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

#108

Post by valuearb »

mschuster91 wrote: post #83
valuearb wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has a monopoly lock on it's customers. They can't run their applications on Linux or MacOS (or they certainly would) so they keep buying it. Users don't have to upgrade to touchbar MBPs, they can a) still buy newly manufactured old style MBPs, or b) not upgrade Yet they've bought the touchbar MBPs in massive volumes. I've heard lots of anecdotal complaints about the touchbars, the keyboards. But I've also hea…

> Users don't have to upgrade to touchbar MBPs They have, if they want anything comparable in performance to the Windows world (even though 16GB RAM tops is just laughable when there are many 64GB laptops in the Windows world, and I guess 128GB is not far around the corner...).

1) You can still buy a new 2015 MBP with a processer nearly as fast as the 2017 models and 16gb ram. But the vast majority have chosen the touchbar MBP by pure preference.

2) Laptops with more memory don’t have the same transfer speed or power efficiency.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

#109

Post by ReverseCold »

dchuk wrote: post #99
ohthehugemanate wrote: post #61

Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out wit…

Anecdotally, I've been running High Sierra Betas for a few months now and have experienced zero issues. I'm also a die hard apple fan that uses all of the built in apps except for Music (I prefer Spotify). One data point.

Another +1 for that. There are occasionally bugs, but nothing that I can remember specifically (which is a good thing).

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by DonHopkins »

anon1385 wrote: post #75
ohthehugemanate wrote: post #61

Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out wit…

>Apple went from building fantastically reliable software When was this? > Even die hard apple fans don't use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated That has been the case for as long as Apple has made calendar, music and email apps. People have complained about Mail since the first version (it used to be that most "die hard apple fans" were using Entourage…

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