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Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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Re: Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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post #36

Should Twitter also freeze Trump parody accounts? Maybe saying parody on the profile makes it OK. Those anti-Semitic impostor accounts are probably still effective under that rule, since most people will not check a users profile.

Parody accounts are generally satirical, often humorous, and fairly open about their deception.

Pretending to be jewish, to say unpleasant things and trick unsuspecting people into believing this is the view of a 'Jewish person' (quotes because the whole concept is very reductive at both ends of the interaction) is neither.

I would also say the issue almost certainly isn't limited to Jew-impersonators either, but since that's what the article is about I used that example.

Re: Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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post #39

>I’d received the second-most abuse of any Jewish journalist on Twitter during the campaign cycle. [...] As a result, I’ve become something of an unintentional expert on alt-right trolls and their tactics. Red flag: Blind man about to describe elephant. Not to be hasty, I didn't stop reading there. I stopped reading once I found out the author thinks he's moving the needle by ineptly fighting a blatantly-obvious disi…

> I’d received the second-most abuse of any Jewish journalist on Twitter during the campaign cycle. [...] As a result, I’ve become something of an unintentional expert on alt-right trolls and their tactics. > Red flag: Blind man about to describe elephant. Must one be an alt-right troll to describe one? But not to be hasty I'll skip that point for now... > I stopped reading once I found out the author thinks he's mov…

>Must one be an alt-right troll to describe one?

No, but this smells like the journos that in 2016, lurked /pol/ for a few hours and tried to work backwards to form a grand unified theory of Trump's win. Granted, that's more time than I've spent on /pol/, but it strikes me as what Matt Taibbi once called (paraphrasing) the lazy-sportswriter approach to political reporting.

>how is this blatantly obvious to the average user? It's simply not

It's obvious by the standards of internet propaganda campaigns. I'll admit that's not something typical users are even on guard against...

>Pic, bio and subject matter is about as deep as most people would go to identify a Twitter account as belonging to a given person.

Yeah, but the amount of stock people already put into Twitter users has never made any sense, either. I know there is a hypothetical ideal where a Twitter user you don't already know personally can be seen as less suspicious than "random Internet person," but that's not the world we live in. Even verified twitter users doesn't verify anything more than precisely which moron a set of brain-droppings came from. That doesn't make them right, or even make Twitter a useful way to take the temperature of society.

Twitter perpetrates the lie that the platform can be modified to deliver the platform it can never realistically be. Both in the practices of the business named Twitter, and the actions of mass of users that have some of their professional value and/or fame tied to the idea of Twitter managing to find the mythical usefulness and trustworthiness among strangers long assumed to be impossible in large scale (online or IRL).

This is all a meandering tangent about Twitter's place in society, but informs my previous statements about this article.

Re: Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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“A large number of people have blocked you in response to high volumes of untargeted, unsolicited, or duplicative content or engagements from your account,” we were informed. This was true; Impostor Buster had been blocked by many neo-Nazis. “A large number of spam complaints have been filed against you.” Yes, by neo-Nazis. “You send large numbers of unsolicited replies or mentions.” Yes, to neo-Nazis. What are the a…

It wasn't simply the morally reprehensible position . It was also the act of impersonation. The bot identified impersonation.

Technically it's not impersonation. The trolls are creating fake personae, but not stealing anyone's identity.

Re: Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't simply the morally reprehensible position . It was also the act of impersonation. The bot identified impersonation.

Technically it's not impersonation. The trolls are creating fake personae, but not stealing anyone's identity.

Once you use a real person's picture w/o their consent, I think you're walking a fine line between a fake persona and impersonation.

Re: Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, so does impersonation allow you to be spammed? It seems like impersonation is non-consequential, or at least hard to measure. Especially on such an ephemeral platform.

Your sympathies are very telling.

Are you seriously insinuating this user is a neo-Nazi because he's trying to have a polite conversation about what is and is not ethical? That's shameful.

Re: Confessions of a Digital Nazi Hunter

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't simply the morally reprehensible position . It was also the act of impersonation. The bot identified impersonation.

Ok, so does impersonation allow you to be spammed? It seems like impersonation is non-consequential, or at least hard to measure. Especially on such an ephemeral platform.

I think it's pretty easy to see that impersonation has negative consequences. How would you feel if someone impersonated you to your employer, family, or friend, and said something disagreeable?

I do agree that "They broke the rules" might not be a good justification for further rule-breaking.

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