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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by vonseel »

pentae wrote: post #39
sarreph wrote: post #19

For those with Nvidia GPUs, may I suggest (as per previous comments[0]) that you download the Nvidia BETA drivers[1] for your system. (Disclaimer: at your peril — and for your relevant device... This can be hard to figure-out as what your Mac says your GPU is, in my case a 750M GT, is actually classed as a GeForce GTX 680 :') -- what I've linked to) Seems to have done a decent job at patching up some of the more seri…

In hindsight the best decisions I've made this year regarding the enjoyment of my Apple devices was not upgrading from iOS 10, and not upgrading to High Sierra. I really want to buy new Apple products and enjoy them but the company doesn't make hardware or software I want anymore.

> I really want to buy new Apple products and enjoy them but the company doesn't make hardware or software I want anymore.

Problem solved! Move on to buying things you do want.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by vonseel »

christoph wrote: post #11
jarym wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have to agree, my biggest concern for putting it off was APFS so I waited until no one complained about it for long enough thinking 'everything else should still be ok' - big mistake. Stay away until Schiller praises the 'stability' release at 2018 Developer Conference.

I think it’s APFS that’s the cause of my biggest frustration, but I’ve not seen anyone else complain about. I normally run with about 50gb free space. After three to four days, I’m normally down to about 3gb and nothing will get it to show back up, other than a reboot. I’ve even run a test which supports this - downloaded 35gb of files, deleted them and emptied the trash. Same thing... space is missing till I reboot.

And the typical utilities such as du / df or GUI tools like OmniDiskSweeper report the correct information?

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

sarreph wrote: post #49
pentae wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In hindsight the best decisions I've made this year regarding the enjoyment of my Apple devices was not upgrading from iOS 10, and not upgrading to High Sierra. I really want to buy new Apple products and enjoy them but the company doesn't make hardware or software I want anymore.

Don't even talk to me about iOS 11... Upgraded from a (somewhat sluggish, but usable) 5S on iOS 10, to a new iPhone 8 on iOS 11... The snappiness in apps is all there (which is what I wanted), but man the bugs! One of my current gripes is that I can only be 80% sure a photo I'm taking will save to camera-roll... I thought I'd lost all of my videos from Christmas Day morning until they spontaneously appeared 10 minute…

Interesting, I haven’t noticed any major issues with my iPhone 8.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by vonseel »

daBewt wrote: post #7

I had this issue a lot _before_ upgrading to High Sierra. In my case I did a clean install of my Mac and then installed High Sierra. The issue then went from happening 3-4 times per day to about 3-4 time per week. I suspect this (at least in my case) having a lot more to with the new Macbook Pro with Touch Bar than macOS. In any case, apple should do better

Touchbar == poop emoji

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by CharlesW »

okket wrote: post #12

FWTW, Late 2013 15" MBP: daily use, no problems with High Sierra

Also no problems here with High Sierra here on two daily-use machines, a MacBook Pro (13", early 2015) and a Mac mini (mid-2011).

Tip 1: Anyone with problems can use Apple Bug Reporter[1]. In my experience Apple really does watch these — I reported an issue with an old USB headset in Sierra and it was fixed in a subsequent release.

Tip 2: HN readers in Apple's developer program can use High Sierra betas to test if an issue still exists, and report that via Apple Bug Reporter or even open a Technical Support Incident (TSI). I think it's likely that Apple prioritizes (1) issues found in developer or public betas[2], and (2) issues coming from people in their developer program.

None of this is to say that anyone should have to do work to get a bug-free OS experience. This is just to suggest actions to take for people who have a bias for that.

[1] https://bugreport.apple.com/web/ [2] https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by aaronbrager »

LarryMade2 wrote: post #35

High Sierra is a mess, I had someone whose computer was un-bootable because of it. I went through many "solutions" only to finally roll it back to a previous OS version via backup (thankfully they used Time Machine regularly), and told them do the current system updates but don't update the OS. I've worked through many update issues in OSX over the years, and the fixes were reasonable, but this one is really bad, and…

You can still download old versions of macOS from the Mac App Store, eg Sierra is available here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208202

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by hitgeek »

I upgrade an old 2011/2012 MacBook Pro to high Sierra so I could download the latest Xcode.

there has been a few times since then that the machine will freeze then show a folder with question mark icon.

surprisingly it boots up fine after turning it off and on again, but I'm worried it won't last long.

its a bummer b/c even though the machine is old, I upgraded to 8gb of ram and 500gb ssd and the performance is comprisable to a new MacBook a just got.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by lispm »

I have a Macbook 12" from 2015 with High Sierra. Works fine with the latest version. it took Apple a year to release a stable macOS for the Macbook. Now I have very little problems, but before it was common not to wake up reliably, running external screen had problems, etc.

My Quadcore i7 Mac mini is still a mess under High Sierra. I see it freezing very often and especially when the machine gets some load. It's basically not usable for anything beyond reading mail and browsing the web. It was freezing once a month under Sierra. Under High Sierra it can freeze several times a day. Last days it was also rebooting on itself, twice.

I had filed a bug report, but Apple asked for a full system diagnosis report, which is not something I can give away because it would contain restricted information.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by reacharavindh »

Not so long ago, I use to justify to myself that:

* Mac is good hardware and software I can count on. Just pay and focus on your real job.

* Apple cares about privacy very publicly, so they are probably not selling my data or doing anything stupid with it. Although, there is no way for me to know.

* My work is buying the hardware for me. Why bother spending time building one that I need to maintain so much. Get the one that "Just works!"

But, recent weeks of blunders and annoyances in my Mac after updating to High Sierra is making me rethink. I'm going to spend my weekend configuring my Dell XPS with VoidLinux and set it up with open alternatives for most of my use cases.

True, I will miss some niceties like Retina Fisplay and crisp font rendering, but my self-made solution can be comfortably close to it. Although I will sorely miss the "Copy on the phone, Paste on Mac" functionality.

I will setup Tarsnap or something with crown and forget about backups except for restoration testing every year.

I will use Darktable on photo library that is synced to phone via NextCloud. Instead of Apple Photos.

Recent Firefox with Adblocker and Ghostery as a web browser.

Chrome for browsing Facebook and Amazon.

KVM instead of Virtualbox for VM needs. Docker for container needs.

Sublime Text for programming editor.

Clementine as Music player

VLC or MPlayer for media

Will figure out the rest. And put all the install/configure commands on a Ansible playbook and commit it to Github. So that next OS install is completely automated. If y'all have any tips for including in my setup this weekend, I'll appreciate it very much!

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by chomp »

Cshelton wrote: post #32
baggachipz wrote: post #3

Despite the daily nag messages, I still haven't "upgraded" to High Sierra yet because I've heard nothing but bad things about it from friends and coworkers. What does it bring to the table besides headaches?

Same here, I'm holding out. You probably already know just how excited I was to hear they will combine Mac OS and IOS into one OS. I can't wait for all the new bu..err.. features we'll be getting!! \s How's Linux doing with battery life on a laptop these days? I think my 2014 MacBook may be my last.

I have a Dell Precision 5510 with Skylake i7, 32gb RAM, NVMe

I get about 10 hours of battery life on Fedora 27. Not too bad at all.

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