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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by stevenh » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 3:57 PM UTC

EGreg wrote: post #9

Can we have a conversation about how it can be that Apple, which used to proudly advertise on "It Just Works", is sitting on billions of dollars in cash AND YET, at the same time, iOS and MacOS experience some major regressions with every new release? I mean, Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX user satisfaction and usability. Steve Jobs would be rolling around in his grave. Ever since the "skeumorphism" debate,…

Is it possible that the company is being sabotaged from the inside by employees secretly working on behalf of competitors, and Tim Cook is too naive to see through their sycophancy and specious "good" update ideas?

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by carlivar » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 3:58 PM UTC

jarym wrote: post #6

mvdwoord wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the same boat. Quite scared of the seemingly endless stream of bad news. Switched to macos about 6 years ago, but it seems to have been a downhill ride.

So sorry, my experience with Apple from 2004 until Sierra was totally positive - hardware and software. I'm sure Apple will be rectifying this 'dropped ball' moment soon and I pray they'll learn from it.

That's what worries me. My hypothesis is that post-Jobs Apple is not capable of what you describe.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by shurcooL » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 3:59 PM UTC

FWIW, late 2011 15" MBP here, latest public version of High Sierra, and no serious problems with it. Feels and acts the same as all previous macOS versions before it for me.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by carlivar » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:00 PM UTC

stevenh wrote: post #41

EGreg wrote: post #9

Can we have a conversation about how it can be that Apple, which used to proudly advertise on "It Just Works", is sitting on billions of dollars in cash AND YET, at the same time, iOS and MacOS experience some major regressions with every new release? I mean, Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX user satisfaction and usability. Steve Jobs would be rolling around in his grave. Ever since the "skeumorphism" debate,…

Is it possible that the company is being sabotaged from the inside by employees secretly working on behalf of competitors, and Tim Cook is too naive to see through their sycophancy and specious "good" update ideas?

I think Hanlon's Razor applies.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by softinio » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:03 PM UTC

alphabettsy wrote: post #20

My only issue is Chrome freezing multiple times per day. That doesn’t take the system down though.

must admit I switched to Safari from chrome a few weeks ago and couldn't be happier.

I have too many tabs open all the time using safari impacts my life in a negative way less :-)

Also swipe works :-)

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by Willamin » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:06 PM UTC

Happy user of a Macbook Pro 13" with Touch Bar chiming in here. No unusual problems to report. I only experience slows/freezes when: - I'm putting the machine under heavy stress - I've filled up all but a few hundred megabytes of disk space - the machine has 1-5% of its battery remaining

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by acdha » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:07 PM UTC

baggachipz wrote: post #3

Despite the daily nag messages, I still haven't "upgraded" to High Sierra yet because I've heard nothing but bad things about it from friends and coworkers. What does it bring to the table besides headaches?

The headaches appear to be video driver specific. Most of the people I know who upgraded on day one haven't had problems.

That said, most of the benefits aren't visible so unless you use Safari or an app which depends on Metal 2, etc. there's no massive reason to jump.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by bluedino » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:07 PM UTC

okket wrote: post #12

FWTW, Late 2013 15" MBP: daily use, no problems with High Sierra

2010 13", 2013 15", and 2016 13", no problems here

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by sarreph » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:09 PM UTC

pentae wrote: post #39

sarreph wrote: post #19

For those with Nvidia GPUs, may I suggest (as per previous comments[0]) that you download the Nvidia BETA drivers[1] for your system. (Disclaimer: at your peril — and for your relevant device... This can be hard to figure-out as what your Mac says your GPU is, in my case a 750M GT, is actually classed as a GeForce GTX 680 :') -- what I've linked to) Seems to have done a decent job at patching up some of the more seri…

In hindsight the best decisions I've made this year regarding the enjoyment of my Apple devices was not upgrading from iOS 10, and not upgrading to High Sierra. I really want to buy new Apple products and enjoy them but the company doesn't make hardware or software I want anymore.

Don't even talk to me about iOS 11... Upgraded from a (somewhat sluggish, but usable) 5S on iOS 10, to a new iPhone 8 on iOS 11... The snappiness in apps is all there (which is what I wanted), but man the bugs! One of my current gripes is that I can only be 80% sure a photo I'm taking will save to camera-roll... I thought I'd lost all of my videos from Christmas Day morning until they spontaneously appeared 10 minutes later.

Trying to post to Instagram Stories is another fun game that tends to fail 50% of the time.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by dingo_bat » Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 4:09 PM UTC

sccxy wrote: post #30

For me it is impossible to get updates for High Sierra. App Store is not working and manual install is impossible. It tells my Macbook Air has Fusion drive which is incompatible with latest High Sierra. No Macbook Air has ever got Fusion drive.. Waiting for some free time to reinstall macOS.

My wife recently installed Win10 on her Macbook Air. Seems to run perfectly now :D