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Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

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Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#81
post #49

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I agree with you so much that I deleted my original comment, because I unjustly ignored a lot of what the author was saying.

Deleting the comment made the thread harder to understand.

I like the deletion. More people should delete their comments (if they turn out to be inapplicable or unfair).

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#82
post #36

For both wealth and (perceived) beauty, there is often a relatively easy solution: move! For more beauty, move to a location with a greater ratio of the opposite sex. For more wealth, move to a location with a lower cost of living. I don't know how much longer these arbitrage opportunities will exist, but for now they probably represent the biggest 'lifehacks' one can make.

I can't speak for sex ratios, but generally the reason some places have a lower cost of living is generally because either no one wants to live there (often for good reason) or it's more difficult to earn money there.

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#83
post #52

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Don't be silly. She wrote that her friend, "could easily bring in a low six-figure income" If you save wisely, you can retire just fine after a career at a tech company making 2-3x the US median salary. And most companies have good health coverage for the cancer. She is talking about the pressure to make $10M or more through a startup, not getting the money to retire comfortably.

"If you save wisely, you can retire just fine after a career at a tech company making 2-3x the US median salary." This is a theory at this point...and it's not a well-tested theory. I don't know many people who have actually retired from a lifetime (i.e. 30+ year) career in tech. Considering that the software industry (as we know it) is only about 30 years old, it's hard to draw long-term conclusions.

The specific career is not relevant. Any person who has retired after making 3x the median US salary is evidence in this scenario.

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#85
post #51

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It's the Mexican fisherman story. Sacrifice your freedom and happiness so that you can get rich so that you can have freedom and happiness. Why not just take the direct route?

"It's the Mexican fisherman story. Sacrifice your freedom and happiness so that you can get rich so that you can have freedom and happiness." and how do you suppose we do that? Freedom to me means: 1) not having to work for anyone 2) having enough time to do what I want 3) traveling around the world You need money to do all of these. To get money, you need to create something that people are willing to pay for, which…

My cofounder was telling me a story about his friend's brother--where he doesn't really work much, but travels a lot.

Apparently, when asked how he does it, the brother quipped, "Most people are too stupid to be poor."

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#86
post #64
post #51

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"It's the Mexican fisherman story. Sacrifice your freedom and happiness so that you can get rich so that you can have freedom and happiness." and how do you suppose we do that? Freedom to me means: 1) not having to work for anyone 2) having enough time to do what I want 3) traveling around the world You need money to do all of these. To get money, you need to create something that people are willing to pay for, which…

is that what freedom means? it sounds like you're condition of freedom is to have money, and its only freedom as long as you can pay for it. not really that free.

Care to offer a better definition?

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#87
post #50

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> Without trying to sound like an absolute ass... Some things just come naturally to you I suppose.

"Some things just come naturally to you I suppose." You just called him an ass. That's rude. He(?) stated that "most of the founders of the biggest empires and hottest startups are in fact men" which is a fact. He's also speculating that the pressures put on men to get rich is the main cause of this. I see nothing offensive about what he said.

Actually, I implied that he sounded like an ass.

And it's disingenuous of you to pretend that the purpose of his comment was to purely, disinterestedly disseminate facts.

Instead of hearing the wisdom of the article writer, he demonstrates precisely the mentality with which she was finding fault, essentially generalizing her philosophy to all women, and painting it in the light of failure rather than moderation and internal peace.

Frankly, I find his comment chauvinistic and somewhat offensive, and I'm not even a woman.

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#88
post #3

Well, there's also the issue that the economy refuses to provide honest reliable jobs for honest reliable people... If your dad or mom is a professor, maybe you can get a tenure track job, but if you're anybody else you've got take what's in the marketplace... And "playing it safe" means the odds are 100% that you'll get screwed... The only career path that seems possible of providing any security of all is an "all i…

Not directly related, but as the child of a family that amounts to a dynastic succession of academics, I feel the need to disabuse anyone reading of the impression that there is any connection whatsoever, at all, between having professors for parents and getting a tenure-track position. As it stands, it's nearly impossible for spouses to exert enough leverage to find academic employment at the same institution. If th…

Well, I'll just say that, when I was in grad school at an Ivy League school that 100% of the professors, for whom I knew anything about their parents, were also professors -- and that was a sample between 20 and 30 people.

Things might be different at other schools, but I do know that even the Chronicle of Higher Education is starting to recognize the 'dynastic succession' phenomenon after years of it going on under wraps.

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#89
post #66
post #39

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I know this is how I feel. The only time I think about the money is when I read someone on here mentioning it, but it quickly fades. Otherwise, all I think about is being able to work on anything I want and starting my own company. Nothing seems cooler than that in my opinion. Besides, if you want bragging rights, how many people can say they started their own company?

The problem is when you don't have money or savings to not think about money all you think about is making that money to do whatever venture you want without worrying about putting food on the table and a roof over your families head.

If that were the case, I wouldn't be working on a startup probably. Instead I would be looking for a job to pay for the necessaries.

Re: Hey, Guys, It's Totally Okay If You Don't Get Rich

#90
post #67
post #62

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Are you saying that there is some more direct route to working on what one wants? Or that the direct route to happiness is to give up such aspirations?

Darn it you changed your reply after I replied, this still kind of applies. Edit again, you're reply is practically evolving every time I hit update. Being free and being broke is what I think his direct route is. You can say that the pan handlers have more or less freedom than a business owner, depends on how you define the words.

Yeah but very few people can successfully pull this off. The vast majority of broke people are still harboring some sort of grudge against society or someone from their past - it's like they have 99% of the inconveniences of abandoning materialism, but none of the benefit because they refuse to "go all the way" with it.

In many ways intellectual freedom can only be found once material mastery has been achieved. There are a few famous examples from history that say otherwise, like Diogenes, but I doubt you're at his level. I also doubt you really believe in what you're saying, otherwise you would go straight to "abandoning" instead of posting on Hacker News.

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