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Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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For more substance and less self-promotion, see her master's thesis here: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.929... There's also a better graphical overview of the signs here: https://frontiers-of-anthropology.blogspot.com.br/2014/08/ge...

Non-mobile link for the latter: https://frontiers-of-anthropology.blogspot.com.br/2014/08/ge...

(Also the former link seems to be broken?)

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Thunderbolts project offers an interesting theory on these symbols https://www.thunderbolts.info

For anyone else wondering what that site is about, it’s pseudoscience: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Electric_Universe

Thunderbolts definitely has (big!) issues: I would say it's a mix of some under-appreciated but real science and a lot of loose theorizing that lacks the mathematical rigor, data analysis, and peer review needed to back it up. However, the idea that petroglyphs are human drawings of planetary-scale plasma glow discharges is actually a sound theory; and it's not Thunderbolts' theory, in any case. See my comment above:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16015017

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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I wonder if our brains have changed so much since then, that we may not be able to comprehend what the symbols originally meant.

Why would "our brains" change? Because we have tv and phones?

We see the world differently. IE what was a 100 IQ, 100 years ago would be sub standard today because we have new ways of thinking that allow us to do better abstraction. Plus the we've changed how we see the world. Blue is a relatively new color. It is a recent distinction between what most cultures saw as green.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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I don't believe that Swastika symbol is as ancient as these. Wikipedia tells me that it appears for the first time in 3000 BCE in India. Also, regarding "German Laws and general sentiment", I invite you to read this detailed blog post[1] on the history of Svasti symbols in Unicode[2] and the controversies around getting them in Unicode. Edit: Typo. Links corrected. [1]: https://babelstone.blogspot.com/2006/02/when-is…

Why is it so controversial to have a swastika symbol in unicode? The hammer and sickle had no problems and it is also banned in some countries.

I didn't express an opinion there as you seemingly assumed. I just stated that it ended up becoming controversial and this can be seen by referring to the documents and historical records of the meetings discussing the subject. One could see what I'm talking about if they at least skim through the blog post I linked to in my comment.

Also, controversy is not a comparative matter (and this one indeed is an opinion).

Edit: Grammar.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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> And it always means "Sun" or "Good Luck" or something positive. Except after 1945 it does not. The swastika was already quite firmly linked with fascism in Europe by the late 1920s.

> The swastika was already quite firmly linked with fascism in Europe by the late 1920s. It wasn't. If anything, it was linked to preservation of tradition and conservatism. I know from my grandparents, who are Polish Highlanders, that it also doubles for holy cross, and thus was used in sacral contexts or on tombstones: https://slowianowierstwo.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/1095605... https://slowianowierstwo.files.wo…

The Nazi party adopted the hakenkreuz (swastika) in 1920. So yes, swastikas were associated with fascism long before WW2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Nazism

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Except that Slashdot doesn't have a userbase capable of bringing a server to it's knees anymore.

Hardly a unique phenomenon. In society we have so many terms as a nod to their (deceased) inventor(s), or as a nod to a (deceased) person of interest.

"She had her moment in the limelight." - "Limelight" hasn't been used for stage lighting (or anything like it) in over a century.

"The application is tied up in red tape." - "Red tape" as a binding for important documents is now little used outside of handful of places.

"The company bigwigs fired half the staff." - Once upon a time, people in authority wore wigs as a symbol of authority. Now it's limited to a few legal and parliamentary systems; CEOs and the like don't wear them.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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"(W)e don't know exactly how it was done" is exactly what "unexplained mystery" means.

As opposed to explained mysteries? /s

An explained mystery would be something for which the method would be non-obvious, but nonetheless the method was known. Like a magic trick the solution of which were pubic knowledge - mysterious but explained in sources in the public domain.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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So, you've a 45 ton stone to lever up, how do you move the log that would be though enough to use as a lever ... How about the fulcrum stone, how do you move that ... levers will the way down?

Dig a hole beneath the other end of the stone, it turns the ground into a fulcrum.

Which is nearly impossible in some geologies, the extreme being on rock, eg in a quarry.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Please don't post snarky dismissals to HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is. It only makes the thread even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Dang, could you please unban my account? Thanks.

You weren't banned, but your comments were caught by a software filter. Sorry—new accounts are subjected to extra filters because of past abuses by trolls. We've marked your account legit so this won't happen again.

All: it's much better to email issues like this to hn@ycombinator.com, as the site guidelines ask: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. It's pretty random what we do and don't see on the site, but we see all the emails.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Reminds me of the also unbroken Indus script. With all this computational power, I'm surprised that we haven't been able to crack ancient proto-writing.

> Reminds me of the also unbroken Indus script. With all this computational power, I'm surprised that we haven't been able to crack ancient proto-writing. Attempts to crack the Indus script with the aid of computers have been made since at least the 1970s (a large Soviet team went to work on it then), but the problem is that the Indus script may not actually encode the sounds of a language. If it is essentially a set…

The main problem as I understand is that although there are a thousand examples of Indus texts, the longest one is 17 characters. And there are no bilingual inscriptions.

But I do wonder if there isn't a side channel, or just some way of doing it without requiring the usual necessary elements.

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